The Rich Roll Podcast

Adam Grant is an organizational psychologist at Wharton, a bestselling author, and the host of Re:Thinking. This conversation explores our modern disconnection and Adam’s practical tools for finding our people. We discuss his backstory, how screens create a facsimile of connection, the four kinds of friendship, why first impressions can be misleading, reserving judgment while setting boundaries, and more. Adam is a generous thinker. This exchange is an invitation to rethink how we connect. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Kohler Health: Get 10% off Dekoda with code RICHROLL10👉🏼https://www.kohler.com/kohlerhealth  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 50% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll  Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Freaks of Nature: Save 20% with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.freaksofnature.com  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% off your first order of DS-01®👉🏼https://www.seed.com/RichRoll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cedric King is a former Army Master Sergeant, Purple Heart recipient, and double amputee who has run more than 30 marathons on running blades. We recorded the day after the NYC Marathon, where I served as his run support and found a way to get out of my own self-obsession and make it about somebody else. We discuss the IED blast in Afghanistan that took his legs, his struggle with painkillers, his father, and why being of service is the answer. And I try to explain why running beside him was an absolute, unforgettable peak experience. Cedric’s positive energy is infectious. This whole marathon journey left me hopeful for humanity. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Kohler Health: Get 10% off Dekoda with code RICHROLL10👉🏼https://www.kohler.com/kohlerhealth  Norda: Experience the ultimate in trail running innovation👉🏼https://www.nordarun.com  TORRAS: Get 15% off the TORRAS Q3 Air Pro case with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://torraslife.com/products/iphone-17-pro-max-case-ostand-q3-air-pro  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jim Morrison is a ski mountaineer and the subject of “Everest: The Other Side,” the new film from Jimmy Chin and Chai Vasarhelyi. A year ago, he accomplished an impossible first: skiing Everest’s direct North Face from the summit. Jim has also endured unimaginable loss – his wife and two young children in a 2011 plane crash, then his partner, Hilaree Nelson, in a 2022 avalanche on Manaslu. We discuss grief, fear, the legacies of the people he’s lost, and why loss isn’t about living without the people you love, but bringing them with you. Grateful to Jim for sharing from the heart. Go hug your people. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Birch: Get 27% Off Sitewide👉🏼⁠https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll⁠ WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cole Brauer is the first American woman to race solo, nonstop around the world, and the author of First Light: Sailing Solo but Not Alone. We discuss the Dragon Time mindset, breaking into the walled garden of alpha males, 130 days alone at sea, choosing her boat over the win at Cape Horn, and why coming home was harder than the ocean. Along the way, she teaches me what a ring around the sun means. Cole is a badass wise beyond her years. And our conversation is cinematic. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Eight Sleep: Get $350 off your Pod 5 Ultra with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.eightsleep.com/richroll  Prolon: Get 15% OFF sitewide + a $40 bonus gift👉🏼https://www.prolonlife.com/richroll  Noble Mobile: Try Noble for just $10 with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.noblemobile.com  Freaks of Nature: Save 20% with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.freaksofnature.com  TORRAS: Get 15% off the TORRAS Q3 Air Pro case with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://torraslife.com/products/iphone-17-pro-max-case-ostand-q3-air-pro Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Terry Bradshaw is a four-time Super Bowl champion, Hall of Fame quarterback, longtime FOX NFL Sunday analyst, and author of the new memoir “Looking for Terry.” Terry opens up about playing in fear, his dark alter ego Roy, the night he snuck out of a Miami hospital, two cancers, and the Netflix obituary special set to air after he dies. He’s bigger than life. This one is very honest. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Shokz: Use code RICHROLL for an exclusive discount on all Shokz products👉🏼https://beopen.shokz.com/RICHROLL  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  AG1: Get the Welcome Kit + D3 + K2 + Flavor sampler pack FREE ($126 in gifts)👉🏼https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll  WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 50% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tom Hopper is an actor known for his roles in The Umbrella Academy, Black Sails, and The Terminal List. This conversation explores how Tom manages to meld an artistic sensibility with an athlete’s discipline. We discuss his path from drama school to action star, what Navy SEALs taught him, raising his non-verbal autistic son Freddie, a decade alcohol-free, and whether he’s the next James Bond. Earlier in the day, we filmed an Open Container where Tom literally lapped me in the stupidest circuit of all time. I was so humbled. Tom is a mountain of a man and a sensitive artist. He’s an absolute delight. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Shokz: Use code RICHROLL for an exclusive discount on all Shokz products👉🏼https://beopen.shokz.com/RICHROLL     LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack with any purchase👉🏼https://www.drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL  Ridge: Shop Ridge’s Friends & Family Sale👉🏼https://www.ridge.com/RICHROLL  Birch: Get 27% Off Sitewide👉🏼https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll  Momentous: Get up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll     Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Frances Haugen is the Facebook whistleblower whose story inspired Aaron Sorkin’s new film The Social Reckoning. This compilation revisits my 2023 conversation with Frances, then turns to Jonathan Haidt, Max Fisher, and former Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy. We discuss the falseness of the free speech vs. safety binary, the run-up to January 6, what smartphones are doing to kids, and how to reclaim our boredom. Years later, these ills have only grown worse, which is why these conversations still matter. Enjoy! Show notes + MOREWatch on YouTubeNewsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: TORRAS: Get 15% off the TORRAS Q3 Air Pro case with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://torraslife.com/products/iphone-17-pro-max-case-ostand-q3-air-pro  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Go Brewing: Get 50% OFF your first subscription order to Go Brewing’s Beer Club👉🏼https://www.gobrewing.com/richroll50 Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Manganiello is an actor (True Blood, Magic Mike, One Piece) and author of Bloodlines. This conversation explores his odyssey of pain and suffering, self-discovery, and ultimately spiritual transformation – from a near-fatal illness to a family history that upended what he thought he knew. Learning that this podcast helped him make sense of his healing was a reminder of why I do this. Joe's journey is unreal. And he tells it beautifully. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 50% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll  WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Momentous: Get up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Anand Giridharadas is a New York Times bestselling author whose new book is Man in the Mirror. This conversation explores the death of Jordan Neely on a New York subway, the story at the center of the book. We discuss Anand's return from punditry to reporting, how power actually operates, what the Epstein emails reveal about elite relationships, the Aspen consensus, who gets to belong in America and the case for radical humanization. Along the way, I share how the program of recovery taught me to seek understanding and lead with curiosity. Anand's book is an act of service. I hope this conversation is, too. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% off your first order of DS-01®👉🏼https://www.seed.com/RichRoll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Birch: Get 27% Off Sitewide👉🏼https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Malcolm Gladwell is a journalist and bestselling author. Kenya Barris is a writer, producer, and the creator of Black-ish. Together they host the Audible Original podcast The Unusual Suspects. This conversation explores opposite approaches to storytelling. Kenya mines his own life, while Malcolm leaves his out entirely. We discuss Kenya's Inglewood upbringing, finding your voice, Richard Pryor walking off a Vegas stage, the $100 million Netflix deal Kenya walked away from, the shifting tectonic plates of media, and more. These two are a treat together. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Go Brewing: Get 50% OFF your first subscription order to Go Brewing's Beer Club👉🏼https://www.gobrewing.com/richroll50  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Colin Kaepernick is a Super Bowl quarterback, civil rights activist, and author of the new memoir "The Perilous Fight." Ten years after taking a knee, Colin opens up about the parts of the story we didn't see, from the death threats to the fourth-grade letter where he wrote down his future. And yes, he still trains most mornings. Colin is undeniable. This conversation was an honor. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Prolon: Get 15% OFF sitewide + a $40 bonus gift👉🏼https://www.prolonlife.com/richroll  AG1: Get the Welcome Kit + D3 + K2 + Flavor sampler pack FREE ($126 in gifts)👉🏼https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll  Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Eight Sleep: Get $350 off your Pod 6 with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.eightsleep.com/richroll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bryan Johnson and Kate Tolo are entrepreneurs, partners, and the subjects of the Netflix documentary "Don't Die." This conversation explores the couple's challenge to a presupposition around our mortality.  We discuss AI, consciousness, Kate's endometriosis diagnosis, and our culture's relationship with death. I appreciated their openness. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Go Brewing: Get 50% OFF your first subscription order to Go Brewing's Beer Club👉🏼https://www.gobrewing.com/richroll50  LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack with any purchase👉🏼https://www.drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL  Birch: Get 27% Off Sitewide👉🏼https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 50% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

William Goodge is a British ultra-endurance athlete who just FKT'd his Australia crossing. In October, he runs 50 marathons in 50 states in 24 days. We get into the logistics, the strange polarity of a life spent between five-star hotels and the side of a trail, and what it's like to be doubted in public.  Will is the most aura-farming, Goodge-coded ultra mog I could possibly imagine. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: TORRAS: Get 15% off the TORRAS Q3 Air Pro case with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://torraslife.com/products/iphone-17-pro-max-case-ostand-q3-air-pro  WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Momentous: Get up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll  Noble Mobile: Try Noble for just $10 with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.noblemobile.com  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dolph Lundgren is an actor, martial artist, and chemical engineer, best known as Ivan Drago in Rocky IV. This conversation explores the distance between the man on the poster and the boy underneath: the violent childhood, the Fulbright he traded for Manhattan, the delirium of instant fame, the steroids and stunts that followed, a fatal prognosis reversed by a second opinion, and the mirror work that finally took. He offers a quiet rebuke to everything young men are currently being sold about strength. Dolph's still a warrior – but a peaceful warrior. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll  Go Brewing: Get 50% OFF your first subscription order to Go Brewing's Beer Club👉🏼https://www.gobrewing.com/richroll50  Momentous: Get up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jenny Simpson is a three-time Olympian, Olympic medalist, and one of the most decorated American middle-distance runners of her generation. In June, she collapsed at a community mile race. No pulse. More than twenty minutes of CPR. We sat down eight weeks later, before she'd spoken publicly. We discuss June 16th, the inherited heart condition nobody knew she had, the five days she can't remember, and what they were actually like. Jenny is extraordinary. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Birch: Get 27% Off Sitewide👉🏼https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll  LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack with any purchase👉🏼https://www.drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% off your first order of DS-01®👉🏼https://www.seed.com/RichRoll  BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉🏼https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tommie Runz is a runner, sobriety advocate, and co-host of the PR Project. This conversation explores addiction and redemption through Tommie's insistence that sobriety comes first and everything else is downstream. We discuss his backstory, the denial and the delusion of functional drinking, the moment he told the truth, nine years sober, ultrarunning as a spiritual practice, who belongs on the trail, and more. Tommie is a beautiful representation of a real runner. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Freaks of Nature: Save 20% with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.freaksofnature.com  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hunter Biden is a writer, painter, and lawyer who spent a decade being publicly dissected. We explore the trauma beneath the addiction, the anatomy of a relapse, guilt versus shame, and what happens when your covers are pulled so completely that nothing holds power over you anymore. Seven years sober, he calls the worst years of his life a gift. Hunter is proof that prophets walk among us. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Eight Sleep: Get $350 off your Pod 5 Ultra with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.eightsleep.com/richroll  Noble Mobile: Try Noble for just $10 with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.noblemobile.com  Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Prolon: Get 15% OFF sitewide + a $40 bonus gift👉🏼https://www.prolonlife.com/richroll  Birch: Get 27% off ALL mattresses + 2 free eco-rest pillows👉🏼https://www.BirchLiving.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hellah Sidibe is a former professional soccer player, transcontinental runner, and now 3,349 consecutive days into a run streak. This conversation explores the tenets of the run streak and the architecture of Hellah's relentless positivity. We discuss gratitude, why abundance is a consequence of the way you walk the earth, happiness as moments created with people, and his role as the counterweight to the grifters preying on vulnerable young men online. We need more Hellah energy in the world. Consider this a dose. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: AG1: Get the Welcome Kit + D3 + K2 + Flavor sampler pack FREE ($126 in gifts)👉🏼https://www.drinkAG1.com/richroll  Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off your first order of a website or domain👉🏼https://www.squarespace.com/RichRoll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Manoj Dias is a meditation teacher, author of "Still Together," and co-founder of the mindfulness studio Open. Recorded live in New York at Rivian's Performance House, we get into wellness as a secular religion, mindfulness as a choose-your-own-adventure, and what's underneath the language of optimization. He also explains what an NBA team practices before the shot. Then it opens up to a Q&A with the room. Manoj also guides everyone through a practice. A few rounds of five breaths in and five out, then gratitude. Follow along. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much👉🏼https://www.airbnb.com/host  Gusto: Get three months free when you run your first payroll👉🏼https://www.gusto.com/RICHROLL  Momentous: Get up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://www.livemomentous.com/richroll  Freaks of Nature: Save 20% with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.freaksofnature.com  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼⁠https://stories.rivian.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lee Sung Jin is the Emmy-winning writer, director, and showrunner of Beef, and is now co-writing Marvel's X-Men. We discuss his backstory, the Jungian shadow work underneath the show, the specificity with which he constructs these characters and the universality piece that comes out of it, the worst year of his life and the scene it produced, and the name he spent twenty-five years under. The overarching message is that change, evolution, growth are possible and always within our grasp. We just get in our own way. Lee is operating at an entirely different level. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack with any purchase👉🏼https://www.drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL  iRestore: Save on customer favorites with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://www.irestore.com/RICHROLL  BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉🏼https://www.betterhelp.com/richroll  Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://stories.rivian.com/richroll  Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors  Find out more about Voicing Change Media at https://www.voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices