Making Sense with Sam Harris

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about the aftermath of the midterm elections. They discuss Trump's <em>60 Minutes</em> interview, Trump's claims of election fraud, JD Vance's autopsy of the Republican defeat, corruption and the pardon power, the prospects for impeachment, Stephen Miller, the 2028 field, the Democrats and the far left, trolling and the collapse of norms, the tech oligarchs, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Sherry Turkle about her new book, <a href="https://link.amazon/B0dKdRCEn" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><em>Artificial Intimacy</em></a>. They discuss the early optimism of the internet, the attention economy, the loss of solitude and boredom, the decline of empathy, whether the performance of empathy can ever be enough, AI as therapist, the first-person pronoun as the "original sin" of generative AI, humanoid robots and consciousness, loneliness among older people, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Jimmy Carr about comedy, culture, and the state of the West. They discuss Carr's new book on the craft of joke writing, why comedy should be taught, the ethics of crowd work, AI as a new god, cancel culture, attention and meditation, psychedelics, political violence and Italy's years of lead, immigration and unrest in Europe, Britain's economic decline, nuclear power, the case for educating for character, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">In today's conversation, Sam and Jimmy discussed meditation and why it's worth practicing. If that piqued your interest, we'd love to get you started with <a href= "https://www.wakingup.com/makingsense" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">a free trial of Waking Up.</a></p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Kevin Roose about the race to build artificial general intelligence. They discuss Roose's book <em>The AGI Chronicles</em>, the scaling laws behind AI's rapid progress, Dario Amodei's "big blob of compute" memo, the birth of reasoning models, Roose's encounter with Bing's Sydney chatbot, the roughly 50 people deciding humanity's future, the rivalries among lab leaders, AI agents and recursive self-improvement, the absence of regulation, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>In this latest episode of the <em>More From Sam</em> series, Sam and Jaron talk about current events. They discuss Alex Gibney's documentary on Elon Musk, Dara Horn's insights into antisemitism, the Democrats' Hasan Piker problem, Abdul El-Sayed and Zohran Mamdani, the Pentagon's plan to livestream a military execution, Trump's $5,000 voter promise, tech leaders' capitulation to Trump, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Alex Gibney about his new documentary, <em>Musk</em>. They discuss Sam's former friendship with Musk, the line between visionary and con man, the myth of Tesla's founding, the staged self-driving video, Musk's lurch to the right, DOGE and the dismantling of USAID, his feud and reconciliation with Trump, Starlink and the war in Ukraine, the case for future investigations, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Dara Horn about antisemitism, Jewish identity, and the failure of institutions. They discuss Horn's new book, why Jews predate the categories of religion and nationality, antisemitism as a lie rather than an ordinary form of bigotry, why DEI failed Jewish students, the history of anti-Zionism, whether the word "Zionism" is still useful, Horn's time on Harvard's antisemitism advisory group, Nazi influence in the Arab world, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Anne Applebaum about corruption, authoritarianism, and America's retreat from the world. They discuss her <em>Atlantic</em> cover story, the revolutionary project behind Trump's second term, US support for Europe's far right, the AfD, European rearmament, the state of the war in Ukraine, Russian propaganda, Witkoff and Kushner's deal-making in Moscow, Venezuela as a union of kleptocracies, JD Vance's nativism, the midterms, the challenge of depoliticizing institutions, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p class="p1">Sam Harris speaks with Ryan Greenblatt about AI misalignment and the risk of losing control of increasingly capable systems. They discuss the Hugging Face incident, the spectrum of concern about AI risk, why companies are racing ahead despite high odds of a, reward hacking, the distinction between alignment and control, the danger of AIs reasoning in "neuralese," alignment faking, how an AI takeover might unfold, and other topics.</p> <p class="p1">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe"><span class= "s1">samharris.org/subscribe</span></a>.</p>

<p>Meditation can help us live better. It can also help us understand what is true about our own minds. These motivations might seem fundamentally different, but Sam explains why they're two aspects of the same project.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p dir="ltr">On the 25th anniversary of September 11th, Sam discusses the significance of the second plane, the writing of <em>The End of Faith</em>, the failure to take jihadist belief seriously, the costs of the war on terror, the abandonment of America's Afghan allies, the continuity between 9/11 and October 7th, the rise of Islamo-leftism, the misuse of "Islamophobia," and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">Making Sense has no advertisers and no sponsors, which is what allows Sam to talk about whatever he thinks is most important, with no one else having a say. If you already subscribe, thank you. If you'd like to subscribe, you can start at <a href= "https://www.samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">SamHarris.org</a>. Subscribers can also join the Making Sense Community to keep the discussion going.</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://x.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/1716867039300846031?s=20" target="_blank" rel="noopener">This is the recording Sam refers to at 13:18.</a></p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with James Kirchick about the far left's growing influence over Democratic politics. They discuss Kirchick's article "<a href= "https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/07/dsa-socialist-leftist-takeover/687989/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The DSA Is a Parasite</a>," the group's platform and foreign policy, entryism, the alliance between Islamists and the far left, Third Worldism, Zohran Mamdani, antisemitism on the left, polling on political violence, Kirchick's exit from <em>The New York Times</em>, Nicholas Kristof, Jim Jones and the Jonestown massacre, JD Vance, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Preet Bharara about the collapse of good faith debate in American politics. They discuss the fragmentation of media, the treatment of Anthony Fauci, the rush to prosecute political opponents, Trump's self-dealing, why indictments strengthened Trump, lying vs bullshit, tribalism and dogmatism, the failures of the Democratic Party, hypocrisy and sanctimony, restoring norms and institutions, the 2028 election, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">This episode was originally recorded for the <em>Stay Tuned with Preet</em> podcast.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p dir="ltr">In this latest episode of the <em>More From Sam</em> series, Sam and Jaron talk about current events. They discuss the death of Cambridge professor Jason Arday and the institutions that promoted him, America's deteriorating position in the war with Iran, the witch hunt against Anthony Fauci, AOC's prospects in 2028, two former NBA players trolling the WNBA's eligibility rules, the strange appeal of Nick Fuentes, why pacifism fails against real evil, a Making Sense community question on parenthood and mortality, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">Further reading: <a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/08/17/opinion/covid-pandemic-lab-leak-prevention.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">How to Stop a Lab Leak From Starting the Next Pandemic</a></p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>From the archive: In this 2019 episode, Sam Harris speaks with Daniel Kahneman at the Beacon Theatre in NYC. They discuss the replication crisis in science, System 1 and System 2, where intuitions reliably fail, expert intuitions, the power of framing, moral illusions, anticipated regret, the asymmetry between threats and opportunities, the utility of worrying, removing obstacles to wanted behaviors, the remembering self vs the experiencing self, improving the quality of gossip, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Neal Brennan about the experiences that shaped his life and work. They discuss Sam's mother's television career, growing up with an absent father, his struggles with perfectionism, his first experience with MDMA, dropping out of Stanford, meditation retreats, spiritual charisma and claims of psychic powers, the illusion of self, the limits of pacifism, deleting Twitter, Trump and the politics of shamelessness, hypocrisy and vice signaling, the future of American democracy, and other topics.</p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Cameron Berg about whether AI systems are or could become conscious. They discuss self-reports in LLMs, what models say when deception is switched off, the "bliss attractor" state, consciousness and sentience, the hard problem of consciousness, parallels between neural networks and biological brains, the moral risk of building minds that can suffer, possible parallels to factory farming, moral patienthood, the alignment problem, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>

<p dir="ltr">Sam Harris speaks with Kathryn Paige Harden about behavioral genetics, moral luck, and the problem of blame. They discuss Harden's book <a href="https://amzn.to/4wijxyw" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"><em>Original Sin</em>,</a> the controversy over Charles Murray and Ezra Klein, why behavioral genetics remains taboo, the meaning of heritability, nature and nurture as feedback loops, why biological explanations can increase blame, psychopathy as a continuum, a hypothetical cure for evil, embryo selection and IVF, and other topics.</p> <p>Related Episode: <a href= "https://samharris.org/episode/SEC04543DA5" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">#212 - A Conversation with Kathryn Paige Harden</a></p> <p>If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Siddhartha Mukherjee about the science of cancer. They discuss the updated edition of <a href= "https://a.co/d/01ed57Wk"><em>The Emperor of All Maladies</em></a>, whether cancer is one disease or many, why prevention is so hard, inflammation and air pollution as carcinogens, the myth that cell phones cause cancer, liquid biopsies and Bayesian reasoning, immunotherapy and CAR T cells, drug pricing, the promise of AI in drug discovery, the state of American medical science, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p>

<p>Sam Harris speaks with Paul Bloom about our relationships with AI and the future of human connection. They discuss the surprising pace of AI progress, AI companions as a remedy for loneliness, the importance of mattering to other people, digitally resurrecting the dead, whether AI can be conscious, the moral failings of artists, what science actually knows about parenting, the ethics of apology, why late converts from Trump provoke outrage, and other topics.</p> <p dir="ltr">If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can SUBSCRIBE to gain access to all full-length episodes at <a href="http://samharris.org/subscribe" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">samharris.org/subscribe</a>.</p> <p> </p>