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This episode of BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie explores residential assisted living (RCFE) as a high-cash-flow real estate strategy, especially in expensive markets like Southern California. Guest Hans Stone explains how he turned standard single-family homes into assisted living homes that generate far more income than traditional rentals, while also building long-term appreciation and stable demand from an aging population.
What Residential Assisted Living Is
Hans defines the model as residential care facilities for the elderly, which is more about hospitality than healthcare.
Core idea
- Buy or own a home that can be licensed as an assisted living facility
- House elderly residents who need help with daily living
- Provide:
- Meals
- Medication support
- Bathing/help with daily tasks
- Activities, exercise, and entertainment
- 24/7 supervision or care
Important distinction
- This is not a nursing home
- It is a supportive residential living model
- In California, Hans says homes with six beds or fewer can operate as a single-family residence for zoning purposes, as long as licensing and code requirements are met
Why Hans Chose This Strategy
Hans, a mortgage lender by background, got into assisted living during the instability of 2008 because he wanted:
- Stable income
- Diversification
- A business that benefits from a long-term demographic trend: the aging population
He noted that in his market, traditional long-term rentals might bring in $2,500–$3,000/month, while assisted living homes could bring in $12,000–$15,000/month or more.
How the Business Model Works
Hans explains there are three ways to structure the business:
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Owner-operator
You own and run the property/business yourself. -
Own the property + own the business, but hire an administrator
You stay involved financially while outsourcing day-to-day operations. -
Own the property and lease it to an operator
A separate business runs the assisted living operation inside your home.
Hans and his wife chose the owner-operator route.
Why that matters
- Higher profit potential
- More operational complexity
- Requires hands-on management, especially in the early years
Startup Reality: It’s Not Passive at First
Hans emphasized that the first property required a lot of work:
- They had to re-license the home
- Rehire staff
- Learn the business quickly
- Act as caregivers themselves until staffing was in place
Early org chart
- Hans and his wife filled in as caregivers initially
- They hired caregivers quickly
- They also connected with physicians and nurses for services they could not provide themselves
Funding and Billing: Mostly Private Pay
Hans says his homes are structured as private pay, meaning:
- They prefer payment to come from the resident’s family
- They avoid relying on insurance or state payment systems
- This reduces the risk of reimbursement delays or denials
Why private pay?
- More predictable
- Less dependent on outside bureaucracy
- Easier to manage financially
How They Fill Rooms
At first, Hans says they had to hustle for referrals:
- Skilled nursing facilities
- Referral agencies
- Networking in the senior care ecosystem
Over time, they built a strong reputation, and now:
- 100% of their business is word of mouth and referrals
- They currently maintain a waiting list
What the Homes Are Like
Hans says a good assisted living home usually has:
- About 2,000 square feet
- 3–4 bedrooms before renovation
- Open floor plan
- Bedrooms grouped together
- Space for:
- Dining
- Activities
- Sitting/communal living
Typical resident count
- 6 residents
- 1–2 caregivers on site
- Goal is around 1 caregiver for every 3 residents
Sometimes even 2:1 for higher care needs
Room setup
Hans found that:
- 4 private rooms + 1 shared room works well
- Private rooms can command around $7,000–$7,500/month
- Shared rooms may be around $5,000/month in his market
Food, Care, and Daily Operations
The homes are all-inclusive:
- Meals
- Utilities
- Consumables
- Activities
- Daily assistance
Meals
- No chef required
- His wife and admin staff handle meal planning
- Menus are tailored to dietary needs and resident preferences
- The goal is to create a comfortable, home-like environment
Licensing, Permits, and Financing
This is one of the biggest friction points in the strategy.
Licensing
- A state license is required
- The property must be:
- Code-compliant
- Inspected
- Furnished
- Ready to operate before approval
Layers of approval
Hans says there are three levels:
- Property qualification
- Local/fire/code inspection
- State licensing
- Plus a background check on the owner-operator
Timeline
- In 2008, it took nearly a year
- More recently in California, he said it took about 3 months to get licensed, though inspections and approvals can still take additional time
Financing advice
Hans strongly recommends:
- Secure financing before opening as a business
- Ideally finance the property before it becomes licensed
- Once it’s an operating business, standard financing gets harder
- You may need non-QM, private lending, or SBA-style financing
Budgeting for Delays and Reserves
Hans warns that buyers need enough capital for:
- Purchase
- Renovation
- Furnishing
- Licensing delays
- Ramp-up period while beds fill
Practical advice
- Expect 6–9 months for renovations and permits
- Budget 12 months of reserves
- Do not assume the property will be full on day one
What Makes a Good Property
Best property traits
- Around 2,000 sq ft
- 3 beds / 2 baths
- Open common area
- Bedrooms and bathrooms clustered together
- Easy to retrofit into a senior-care layout
What to avoid
- Homes with awkward layouts
- Properties that require major plumbing or structural changes
- Designs that make caregiving inefficient
Renovation Lessons Learned
Hans admits they initially over-renovated and focused too much on aesthetics.
What works better
- Functional over fancy
- Durable materials
- Commercial-grade fixtures
- Vinyl flooring for easy cleaning
- Strong hardware that can withstand heavy daily use
Big lesson
The residents often prefer a “grandma’s house” feel over a shiny new build.
His example:
- An older 1954 home gets more demand than a newer custom-built facility because it feels warm and familiar
Insurance and Liability
Hans says insurance is a major expense and should not be underestimated.
Insurance notes
- Standard homeowner’s insurance is not enough
- You need a commercial policy
- Liability insurance for his three homes in California went from about $2,500/year to around $15,000–$16,000/year
- That’s roughly $5,000 per property/year, plus commercial policy costs
Entity Structure
Hans separates:
- Operating business in one entity
- Real estate ownership in an LLC
Why?
- More flexibility with financing and ownership
- Cleaner liability separation
- Better long-term control over assets
- He specifically avoids holding real estate inside the operating S-Corp
Economics and Returns
Hans says the model can produce strong returns, but only if run correctly.
Example numbers he gave
- Southern California property purchase: around $900,000
- Renovation: around $250,000
- Additional reserves needed
- Potential gross rent once stabilized: about $40,000/month
- Assisted living can bring in 6–7x the market rent of a standard long-term rental
Cash flow reality
- The business usually ramps up slowly
- It may take 6–9 months to fill rooms
- Cash flow improves significantly once you own multiple homes
Important scaling insight
Hans says one property is good, but two is much better because:
- Staff can be shared
- Costs go down
- Scheduling becomes easier
- Profitability improves much faster
Demand and Market Outlook
Hans believes demand is strong because:
- The population is aging
- There is a long runway for need
- There are not enough facilities to meet demand
He says his homes often have waiting lists, and families are looking for personalized care that larger facilities can’t always provide.
Key Takeaways
For investors
- Assisted living can be a powerful way to turn a standard house into a high-income asset
- It works especially well in expensive markets where traditional rentals struggle to cash flow
- The strategy is not passive and requires real operational effort
For rookies considering it
- Study the licensing process before buying
- Secure financing early
- Budget for long delays and reserves
- Focus on function, not luxury
- Build a network of referrers and local professionals
- Consider starting with a plan for two homes, not one
Recommended Next Steps
- Research RCFE compliance and RCFE training
- Talk to lenders before licensing
- Identify markets with:
- Aging populations
- Fixed-income residents
- Strong referral networks
- Evaluate properties for:
- Layout
- Conversion cost
- Caregiver efficiency
- Long-term durability
- Consult a CPA, attorney, and insurance professional before structuring the deal
Final Thought
Hans’s main message is that assisted living can be an excellent real estate strategy if you treat it like a real business. It’s not just about buying a house and collecting rent — it’s about creating a supportive, well-run home that serves a real need while generating strong income and long-term value.