998. - Chris & Jason

Summary of 998. - Chris & Jason

by Chris Black & Jason Stewart / Talkhouse

1h 4m•September 21, 2026

Overview of How Long Gone Episode 998: Chris & Jason

In this episode, Chris Black and Jason Stewart reunite in Los Angeles at the Chateau Marmont for a fast-moving, gossip-heavy conversation that jumps from travel and hotel life to celebrity sightings, Erewhon complaints, wellness obsession, fitness culture, and the latest pop-culture chaos. The tone is loose and funny, with a lot of side tangents, but the throughline is classic How Long Gone: status, taste, and the absurdity of modern life.

Main Topics Discussed

Chateau Marmont, travel, and hotel life

  • They open by comparing the Chateau’s bungalows to the main hotel rooms and joking about “steps vs. stairs.”
  • Much of the early banter is about hotel energy, privacy, and how different parts of the property feel more chaotic or more “rowdy.”
  • They also talk about flying, airport encounters, and the strange etiquette of celebrity interactions in confined spaces.

Celebrity sightings and awkward social behavior

  • Chris recounts seeing multiple recognizable people on a flight and describes an awkward moment where someone tried to force a small talk interaction with an A-list celebrity and got shut down.
  • They riff on how different celebrity levels affect whether an approach is welcome.
  • They also reference ongoing gossip about famous people, including:
    • Channing Tatum reportedly having a burner account
    • Dakota Johnson dating Machine Gun Kelly
    • Joe Alwyn being spotted with different people
    • Ed Sheeran’s recent controversy around Gaza-related comments and the fallout

Erewhon, food, and shrinking portions

  • A big chunk of the episode is a rant about Erewhon:
    • Cake slices are getting smaller
    • Pizza slices feel worse value-wise
    • “Luxury” grocery pricing is increasingly absurd
  • They argue that if you’re paying premium prices, you should get an actually generous portion.
  • Chris shares an Erewhon “hack” involving pizza crust and coconut red lentil soup.
  • They contrast Erewhon’s expensive, curated feel with regular grocery stores and note that the luxury experience should justify the price.

Health, biomarkers, and bathroom minimalism

  • Jason talks about a full-panel health checkup and feeling like his doctor gave him data without useful insight.
  • They plug a biomarker-testing service and joke about tracking far more than standard bloodwork.
  • Chris also describes cleaning out his bathroom drawer/cabinet and how satisfying it felt to reduce clutter.
  • The broader theme is control, optimization, and the small relief of making one part of life less chaotic.

Fitness culture and the “High Rocks” discourse

  • They spend a long stretch joking about High Rocks/HYROX-style fitness competitions.
  • Their take: it’s intense, weird, sweaty, and kind of ridiculous, but they can also see why serious athletes are drawn to it.
  • The conversation turns into a broader joke about extremity in fitness culture and how much suffering people are willing to tolerate for performance.

Attention span, restlessness, and live performance

  • Jason talks about not being able to sit still during a dance performance at the Joyce Theater.
  • He describes loving the performance but constantly fidgeting and feeling physically uncomfortable sitting for long periods.
  • They connect this to age, attention span, and the inability to fully settle into passive entertainment.
  • They also discuss the strange but compelling nature of dance and live performance as something between music and theater.

Music, club culture, and the post-ironic set

  • They recap a recent night of DJing/playing music with friends, including a set that mixed serious and silly choices.
  • Songs like “California Gurls” and “She Wolf” come up as examples of dance-floor classics that still hit.
  • They talk about how some pop songs have aged into cult or sleeper-status greatness.

Pop culture news and online chaos

  • The episode gets especially current when they cover:
    • Ed Sheeran’s political controversy and the awkward position it put him in
    • Macklemore being celebrated for a political statement while still being, in their view, a bad artist
    • A distressing story involving Carrot Top and the dark, joke-heavy reaction online
  • They repeatedly point out how the internet turns serious or sad news into meme material almost instantly.

Notable Takeaways

  • Luxury needs to feel luxurious: Their Erewhon rant boils down to one idea — if you’re charging premium prices, don’t shrink the product.
  • Celebrity etiquette matters: They’re fascinated by how fame changes what kind of approach is acceptable, especially in transit or other awkward settings.
  • Fitness has become theater: High-intensity fitness culture is treated almost like a performance scene, complete with branding, identity, and spectacle.
  • Modern attention spans are brittle: Jason’s inability to sit still becomes a larger discussion about restlessness, aging, and the challenge of staying present.
  • The internet is merciless: Several of the celebrity topics underscore how quickly nuance disappears once something becomes meme fodder.

Overall Tone

This episode is mostly unscripted hanging-out energy: gossip, cultural commentary, and side jokes stacked on top of each other. It’s not a deep-dive interview or a single-theme episode — it’s more of a snapshot of what Chris and Jason are thinking about right now, filtered through hotel-room banter, nightlife memories, and a healthy amount of cynicism.