How Long Gone

by Chris Black & Jason Stewart / Talkhouse
How Long Gone is a bi-coastal elite podcast from old friends and podcast professionals, Chris Black and Jason Stewart. CB and TJ deliver their takes on pop culture, fashion, music, and more. With three new episodes a week, you've got more than enough content to soak up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episodes

1020. - Osman Ahmed
<p>Osman Ahmed is a London-based fashion writer and it-girl. We chat with her from her home about Jensen Huang's honey pot, the Supreme Elliott Smith collaboration, the rise of the pu pu platter and other food trends for the year from The Infatuation, Chris' head being wig-ready if he ever chooses to, losing her luggage in New York and dressing herself in various Halloween looks, fighting to keep 5,000-word pieces alive, the homosexual man's vision for women's clothing being unmatched, Republican trade and "Mar-a-Lago face," billionaires trying to craft "taste," and how she "freaks" an Alo set.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/osman_ahmed_/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/osman_ahmed</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1019. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Jyan Isaac bread and fourth-wave bakeries, the “~” symbol, when the arugula is too loud, Russell Brand in hot water, Charlamagne tha God talking a hell of a lot about God lately, the audio quality of some other podcasts, Adam22’s upcoming appearance on <em>The New York Times’ Popcast</em>, Lamar Odom’s five-digit returns from his first week on OnlyFans, the Met Gala’s new theme being announced, what Chris would wear if he were invited, David Schwimmer pushing cashmere just like us, who the new James Bond should be, financial analyst Scott Galloway claiming to have defecated inside his own car (Tesla), and the uptick in slightly AI-altered paparazzi photos.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1018. - Medium Build
<p>Nick Carpenter, aka Medium Build, is a musician from all over and currently splits his time between Nashville and Los Angeles. We spoke with him from his home in Glendale about the end of the manosphere, Chris goes to a restaurant in Montreal, justice for Moby, playing in Milwaukee the night they won the World Series, and they won while he was on stage (not in a good way), moving to Alaska in 2016 and discovering deep house, shared custody of dogs with his exes, Nick and Chris' drug bottoms, Alaskan sex polycules, Nick gives Jason some mashup ideas, his role in Role Model's life, if Amy Winehouse were alive today she'd be anti-vax, pondering the blue wave's effect on music, the future of guitars, and reminiscing about the crunked-up era of hip-hop.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/mediumbuild/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/mediumbuild</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1017. - Yotam Ottolenghi
<p>Yotam Ottolenghi is one of today's most prolific chefs, restaurateurs, and cookbook writers. His newest book, <em>Simple Too</em>, is out now. We chat with him from his home in London about the New York Marathon, the approaching Christmas season, a pancake disappointment, his children failing to adopt his taste for unique flavors, Yotam trying to convince Chris to take a second look at cottage cheese, what to do with old croissants, resisting the urge to put sumac in Yorkshire pudding, finally getting his side of the pomegranate seed story, British vs. American food safety regulations, how he eats on "show day," cooking as a de-stressor, his ice cream flavors, modern diet paralysis, which foods deliver well and are even better the next day, how you can't copyright a recipe, and we close on Jason's current popcorn seasoning.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ottolenghi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/ottolenghi</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1016. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris and Jason are both in L.A. and chat about passing out Chomps for Halloween and the resurgence of trick-or-treaters, Chris eating an omelette for both lunch and dinner yesterday, Chris seeing Phoebe Bridgers at the Intuit Dome, both of us liking Law Roach now, Chris enjoying his meal at Echo Park's Henrietta, Jason predicting the rise of ciabatta in 2027, Jason visiting the Cheese Store of Beverly Hills, Indy Nivarrette hosting <em>SNL</em>, the word "skank," Martha Stewart's offensive Halloween costume, standing up while watching TV and eating, Dan Frommer's GLP-1 data report, Planters Cheez Balls, and How Long Gone is throwing a party at the PUBLIC Hotel on Thursday, November 5, in Los Angeles.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1015. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris is in L.A. at the new Public Hotel, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about celebrity Halloween photo shoots and Chris' idea for our costume, we find out how old Chris was the last time he dressed up for Halloween, whether IShowSpeed is turning into Tom Cruise, Chris and other creators attending the new Apple MacBook event, what Bill Gates' Amish or A.I. might actually look like in the not-too-distant future, the mysterious inaugural Airbnb.org gala, the guy with the Bode jacket emailed Chris, Jason witnessing an airplane interaction with a male actor, and coming across the first sponcon apology post.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1014. - Chris Wallace
<p>Chris Wallace is an avid traveler, writer, photographer, and old friend of CB's, and has a new quarterly out now. We chat with him on his way to Mexico about reflexively pinching and zooming a physical photograph, attending the W Youth Magazine dinner at Thai Diner, CB's report from sitting courtside at the Knicks game, Chris’ late father “coming out” and developing a relationship with him afterward, the two Chrises comparing how many days a year they’re away and what such travel junkies are “running away” from, not having an address or health care and what city he plans to partially call home next year, working at Les Deux Café in the mid-to-late ’90s, how to find validation for the things one does, celebrity media training and the future of managing your own platform, ego psychosis, and the SEO difficulty of his name.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/chriswallace4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/chriswallace4</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1013. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is in Austin, TX. We chat about the discovery of undershirts, Sacha Baron Cohen's unwanted extreme press push, Jason sitting next to Joe Rogan at the Texas-Ole Miss game, Cybertaxis taking over Austin, drinking all your favorite alcohols in one night, Jason possibly having grown an inch, the benefits of Styrofoam, JAY-Z ticket sales, and Chris preparing to see a Dashboard Confessional matinee followed by courtside seats at the Knicks game.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1012. - Kings of Leon
<p>Kings of Leon are a band from Tennessee. Their new album, <em>O My Beloved</em>, is out soon. We chat with Jared from his home about canned pumpkin, Jason seeking advice on how to approach the college football game he's attending in Texas this weekend, Chris going to buzzy new restaurant Straker's, how to emotionally hedge one's bets with sports, light beer, his unique sleeping situation on hotel floors as a child, having to cancel a show because of bird poop, how opening for U2 taught them to make more anthemic tunes, his mom tailoring his skinny jeans, his job in the band besides playing in it, Kacey Musgraves' disco ball testicles, what "chocolate gravy" is, and the Southern tradition of canning vegetables.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kingsofleon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/kingsofleon</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1011. - Twisted Teens
<p>Twisted Teens are a band from New Orleans. Their new record, <em>The Holy Cross Tigers</em>, is out soon on Sub Pop. We chat with Caspian from his home about the Victoria’s Secret show, bringing a Bible to court, living off-grid in a yurt, Home Depot scams, riding freight trains and trimming flower, his extensive knowledge of California native plants, why everyone he knew left for New Orleans or Minnesota, who should play the Unabomber in the inevitable biopic, how he started writing pop songs once he realized how hard it was, the Tao of Rick Rubin, how he got institutionalized, and how kratom and beer hops ruin your libido.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/twistedteensneworleans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/twistedteensneworleans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1010. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris attending his twin nieces’ fútbol match, Baby Gronk, Bella Hadid working out in the Alo sauna, Jake Shane being ready to learn about Madonna, how to sneak into the W Youth Magazine party at the Saddle Ranch in Hollywood, power-washing videos between sets at the gym, the Elizabeth Holmes doc <em>You Can See Everything</em> opening to much fanfare, HBO’s <em>Girls</em> returning for a limited series, Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley linking up, Chris possibly having the best lemon tart of his life, and Jason heading to the Charli show tonight.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1009. - Samuel Hine
<p>Sam Hine, formerly at <em>GQ</em> and now the senior men’s style editor at <em>New York Magazine</em>, returns to chat with us from his office about heather gray sweatpants, a pill popper on Jason's flight home from Mexico, the power of Jeremy Allen White's new haircut, a recent meal at New York restaurant Ha's Đặc Biệt, his recent cover story featuring a bathhouse full of it-men, photographer Ryan McGinley's sleep schedule, sharing a suitcase with your spouse, the Timeshifter app for our world travelers, his upcoming wedding plans, AI vows, the F&B program at his new offices, a bean sandwich, and Matthew Schneier giving Borgo the top spot on his list of New York's best restaurants.</p><p><strong><a href="instagram.com/samuelhine" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/samuelhine</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1008. - Quil Lemons
<p>Quil Lemons is a Philadelphia-based photographer, currently in New York. His new book, <em>Quiladelphia</em>, is out soon from IDEA Books. We chat with him from his home in New York about more Shane Gillis monologue discourse, digital creator Druski set to host <em>SNL</em> himself, Hillary Clinton's new podcast, Selma Blair arrested for biting people, blicky talk and diamond testers, the globalization of regional Black culture, Soulja Boy as a sex symbol and a presidential candidate, Stone Mountain, Georgia, seventh-grade sex ed, rapper Birdman's kisses, his clockability, if Bill Gates would have let Black people have the internet knowing what he knows now, Quen Blackwell being the new Oprah, casting models off OnlyFans, <em>The Boondocks'</em> Gangstalicious and Thugnificent, sex education and its relation to r*pe culture, meeting singer JoJo while working at Walgreens, working with his husband, who's a stylist, and how he got his name.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/quillemons/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/quillemons</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1007. - Chris & Jason
<p>One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Charleston, SC, and Jason is in Mexico City. We chat about TJ's taco tours, absorbing your partner's tastes and behaviors, the dark evidence of a Hershey's Kiss wrapper, a blackened grouper Caesar salad, Mexicans shifting away from the tortilla chip and toward the potato, Dua Lipa eating an American-style hot dog, Kelly Clarkson's Twitter attack on a puzzle store in Brooklyn, Shane Gillis bombing his <em>SNL</em> monologue, but we dissect his bit about saying hi to people on a hike, and a recent <em>New Yorker</em> piece about comedy and podcasting that features us a bit.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1006. - Rickie De Sole
<p>Rickie De Sole is the fashion editor at <em>Air Mail</em>, formerly at <em>Vogue</em>, Prada, and more. She just got back home to L.A. from Milan and Paris to chat with us about Jason hitting the EsDeeKid show the night before, third-party In-N-Out delivery, what color the Rimowa is and traveling with jewelry, an influx of Londoners in Milan, competitive sailing, stealing phones at the Brentwood Country Mart, Chris not being able to find a pair of shoes for his wife anywhere, using alcohol to sell clothes, legendary Prada sample sales, a Dries Van Noten necklace-belt, and the benefits of commercially viable products.</p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><p><strong>i<a href="https://www.instagram.com/rickiedesole" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nstagram.com/rickiedesole</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

1005. - Kurt Vile
<p>Kurt Vile is a musician from Philadelphia. His great new record, <em>Philadelphia’s been good to me</em>, is out now. He returns to the pod from his home in Philadelphia to chat with us about Chris hitting Keith McNally’s son’s restaurant called Faux, ice cream, playing banjo at the punk club, Paul Revere’s Greek-style pizza, crying a bit after watching Beach House open for the Strokes, quantized drums and staying “off grid,” Bob Dylan being an alien, his favorite songs of the year so far, his thoughts on phone-free concerts, hangin’ out in the garage, guys only crying while watching TV, the vocal mix on “Wonderwall” being really loud, and having something really impressive planned for the “Pretty Pimpin” deluxe release.</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kurtvile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/kurtvile</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/donetodeath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/donetodeath</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://twitter.com/themjeans" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">twitter.com/themjeans</a></strong></p><p><strong><a href="http://howlonggone.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">howlonggone.com</a></strong></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
1004. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in London, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about trouble at ComplexCon in Los Angeles, all the new clothing brands we don’t know, hoodies in triple-digit heat, Chris having to play a game at a small dinner party, Jason planning to see EsDeeKid next week, we celebrate Tinashe’s new album in an uplifting way, as well as her “2 On” remix featuring Drake and OB O’Brien, Diddy being forced to solicit male masseuses behind bars, Jason’s Apple iPhone shoulder strap, personal trainer slash cinematographers, Turnstile on SNL, and Queens of the Stone Age’s Josh Homme entering a rarified level of zaddy on the Ann Demeulemeester runway in Paris. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
1003. - Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones is a journalist and author. He edited GQ in the UK from 1999 to 2021, as well as i-D and Arena. He’s written several books, and his newest, Table Hopping, is out in time for Christmas. We chat with him from his home in London about Parisian chocolat, the Outkast Waffle House collaboration, how long he waits to try a new restaurant after it opens, F&B options at the Hollywood Bowl, why one shouldn’t remark on the food at a “meetings” restaurant, the hierarchy of seating at a horseshoe-style bar, what he was wearing in 1987, how many members’ clubs he’s a member of, La Colombe d’Or in the south of France, pan-Asian clubstaurants, the “second-best answer” you can give someone, the best name-dropper in London, our mutual DJ friends, and we analyze those who argue for sport. instagram.com/dylanjones twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
1002. - Norma Kamali
Norma Kamali is a fashion designer from New York. Her book, I Am Invincible, is out now in paperback. We chat with her from her studio about peanut butter sparkling water and piss-filled vinyl, dating Ian Schrager during Studio 54, the rise of fitness coinciding with the fall of dancing, group sweating and pheromones, dating the people you deserve to date, the evolution of activewear and natural fabrics, being anti-dry cleaning, candy from Pakistan, her thoughts on Galliano and the Met Gala, how old she wants to live to, and never retiring being the key to life. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com instagram.com/normakamali Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
1001. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris was in the Bay Area, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about a missing cat in the Hollywood Hills, approaching the iced coffee debate from all angles, hard-boiled eggs in the plastic bag, messages you don’t need to respond to, Chris was up all night coding at the Four Seasons, loving the Soulwax show, and going to the Meta event, Zuck and Wang’s outfit choices, Jimmy Fallon plugging the new Kith coffee table book, the Folsom Street Fair, and Jason eating at luxe new L.A. sports bar Thickman’s Tavern. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices