Overview of The company at the heart of the AI bubble
This Decoder episode (host Nilay Patel) interviews The Verge senior reporter Liz Lopato about CoreWeave — a fast-growing “NeoCloud” that sits at the center of the current AI infrastructure boom. The conversation explains CoreWeave’s origins in crypto mining, its business model (leasing massive fleets of NVIDIA GPUs), the financial engineering that fuels its growth (debt, special-purpose vehicles, circular financing), and the risks that make the whole setup feel bubble-like.
Key points and main takeaways
- CoreWeave started as an Ethereum-mining company; after crypto cooled it pivoted to leasing GPUs for AI workloads.
- It owns a very large fleet of NVIDIA GPUs (S-1 claims >250,000 GPUs) and sold itself as a specialized provider of “overflow” compute to big cloud customers.
- CoreWeave went public in March and at times has been valued near $50 billion; it has signed multi‑billion dollar contracts (OpenAI reportedly ~ $22B; other deals with Meta, NVIDIA, Microsoft).
- CoreWeave’s growth is powered by novel financing: heavy debt, chip‑collateralized loans, vendor financing, and special-purpose vehicles (SPVs). NVIDIA has invested directly and backstopped CoreWeave in several ways (including buying unsold compute).
- The business is fragile because it depends on (a) continued massive demand for GPU-heavy training workloads, (b) the lifespan/depreciation of expensive GPUs, and (c) continued access to cheap capital and supplier support.
- Several structural risks (chip wear, circular finance, SPV opacity, customers that could become competitors) make the company — and parts of the AI buildout — resemble classic bubble dynamics.
Background: who is CoreWeave and why it matters
- Origins: Founded by former commodities traders in New Jersey as an Ethereum miner; pivoted to AI infrastructure after crypto’s decline.
- Model: A NeoCloud — rents out racks of GPUs and related capacity rather than providing the higher-level managed services that AWS/Google/Azure provide.
- Customers: Large cloud providers and AI firms (Microsoft, NVIDIA, Meta, OpenAI) use CoreWeave for overflow / extra capacity.
- Why it matters: CoreWeave and peer NeoClouds accelerate the AI industry’s ability to scale training jobs quickly by supplying GPU capacity that big clouds can deploy without immediately bearing buildout risk.
Business model and competitive dynamics
- Product: High-density GPU capacity and data center engineering (networking, power/energy procurement, uptime).
- Differentiators: Good energy contracts and data-center engineering allow charging a premium for reliability/performance. But those advantages may be transient.
- Limitations vs hyperscalers: Unlike AWS/Google/Azure, CoreWeave lacks a full service layer (managed services and lock-in); it’s closer to selling commodity compute.
- Competitive threat: Big cloud providers can build their own capacity or shift workloads to internal chips — CoreWeave’s customers could become competitors.
Financial engineering, debt, and risks
- Debt-heavy growth: CoreWeave has taken large loans (chip loans collateralized by GPUs, revolving credit lines with banks like JPMorgan, vendor financing).
- Chip-collateral loans: GPUs are used as collateral. The business relies on assumptions about chip lifespan and resale/collateral value.
- Chip depreciation risk: Heavy training use accelerates wear. If GPUs degrade faster than expected, loan collateral values and repayment timelines worsen.
- Circular financing: Examples where money flows both ways between big players (e.g., Microsoft–OpenAI) or where customers receive stock or other inducements, creating feedback loops that obscure true cash flows.
- NVIDIA’s role: Supplier, investor, and backstop. NVIDIA bought shares when CoreWeave’s IPO faltered and has arrangements (e.g., buying unsold compute) that effectively underwrite CoreWeave’s revenue — giving NVIDIA leverage over the ecosystem.
- SPVs and opacity: Companies use special-purpose vehicles to isolate risk and take on debt without affecting parent-company credit profiles — similar to structures that were red flags in past corporate failures (e.g., Enron). SPVs can make systemic exposure harder to track.
What would “the bubble popping” look like? Markers to watch
- Demand profile: If demand shifts away from heavy training (the big GPU users) toward cheaper inference or more efficient models, utilization and revenue could slump.
- Chip lifespan data: Real-world rates of GPU degradation under heavy training; shorter lifespans would worsen collateral and loan math.
- Financing stress: Tightening credit markets, higher interest rates, missed covenants, or inability to refinance chip loans and revolvers.
- Circularity exposed: More visibility into round‑trip investments and revenue (e.g., big customers propping up vendors) could spook investors.
- Buildout execution issues: Continued fulfillment delays, lowered revenue guidance, or major contract slowdowns (the recent Q3 guidance cut and a delayed contract fulfillment precipitated a stock drop).
- Emergence of more efficient models/hardware: A “deep seek” moment (a much less compute‑intensive model) or competitive chip architectures that reduce NVIDIA dominance.
Notable quotes and framing from the episode
- Nilay Patel: “CoreWeave could not exist without extraordinary levels of financial investment from NVIDIA.”
- Liz Lopato: CoreWeave “exists to hedge other companies’ risks and juice profits by offloading that risk into this company.”
- Liz on valuation framing: CoreWeave CEO Michael Entrader said the money “is not a lot of money if the economy doubles in size” — Liz and Nilay flagged that as a very aggressive macro bet.
- Nilay metaphor: NVIDIA as the “king” and CoreWeave as a dependent “knight” — highlighting supplier leverage and mutual dependence.
Takeaway for listeners/readers
- CoreWeave illustrates how the AI boom isn’t just technical — it’s heavily financial. The industry’s expansion has been enabled by creative financing structures that concentrate risk in NeoClouds and SPVs while giving large suppliers (notably NVIDIA) outsized influence.
- The long-term viability of companies like CoreWeave depends on three uncertain things aligning: sustained high demand for GPU‑heavy training, realistic GPU depreciation/resale economics, and continued access to cheap/creative financing. Any of those can destabilize the model and reveal bubble-like fragility.
- Watch the macro signs (demand mix, chip lifespan, credit markets, disclosure around circular deals/SPVs) to judge whether the AI infrastructure build is durable or overleveraged.
Next reporting threads (what to follow)
- Deeper reporting on chip‑loan mechanics and empirical GPU degradation rates under training loads.
- Tracking SPV usage in AI infrastructure financing and how much debt is effectively off‑balance-sheet.
- Details of circular financing between major AI customers, cloud providers, and NeoClouds.
- NVIDIA’s evolving role (investments, guarantees, supply choices) and competitive responses from cloud hyperscalers.
Sources: Decoder episode (Nilay Patel interview with Liz Lopato), CoreWeave S‑1 and recent earnings commentary covered in the episode.
