Ben Horowitz & Marc Andreessen: Why Silicon Valley Turned Against Defense (And How We’re Fixing It)

Summary of Ben Horowitz & Marc Andreessen: Why Silicon Valley Turned Against Defense (And How We’re Fixing It)

by Andreessen Horowitz

1h 16mNovember 19, 2025

Overview of Ben Horowitz & Marc Andreessen: Why Silicon Valley Turned Against Defense (And How We’re Fixing It)

This A16Z podcast episode brings together a16z co‑founders Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz with American Dynamism GPs Catherine Boyle and David Ulovich to explain why Silicon Valley drifted away from defense and heavy industry, why that shift reversed, and how a new investing and policy approach — dubbed “American Dynamism” — aims to rebuild the U.S. industrial, defense, energy, space, mining, and infrastructure base. The conversation covers history, culture, geopolitics (China, Ukraine), procurement and policy reforms, investment theses, portfolio examples, founder profiles, and concrete opportunities for founders and investors.

Key takeaways

  • Silicon Valley and the U.S. national security ecosystem were once closely aligned; over the past 15–20 years culture, politics, and institutional distance created hostility and disconnection.
  • Ukraine and China were catalytic: cheap drones in Ukraine exposed new warfare economics; China’s manufacturing scale exposed supply‑chain vulnerabilities.
  • A16Z launched the American Dynamism practice to re‑engage tech talent with physical‑world problems (defense, energy, space, manufacturing, mining, public safety, education).
  • The modern opportunity often pairs commodity or modular hardware with advanced software (AI, autonomy, computer vision), making many physical products venture‑backable.
  • Procurement reform, downstream capital, and lessons from SpaceX/Palantir have enabled faster adoption of startups by government and primes.
  • Major thematic investment areas: defense (autonomy, attritable systems), aerospace/space infrastructure, energy (generation, storage, nuclear), critical minerals & manufacturing, robotics, public safety, and education tech.

Background: how “American Dynamism” emerged

  • Historical context: Early Silicon Valley had deep government/defense links (50s–90s). Andreessen and Horowitz sold to and worked with the Pentagon (e.g., Netscape era).
  • 2000s–2010s: cultural and political shifts (post‑Vietnam sentiment, post‑Iraq distrust, campus restrictions, social movements) pushed many engineers and firms away from defense work.
  • Catalytic moment(s): employee revolts over projects like Google’s “Maven” marked a peak of anti‑defense sentiment. The Ukraine war and China's industrial rise later contributed to reassessment.
  • Launch: In 2020–2021, with Catherine Boyle’s framing and internal alignment at a16z, the firm created American Dynamism to invest in the intersection of software and advanced hardware serving national resilience and infrastructure.

Why the hostility developed — cultural & political causes

  • Post‑Vietnam and post‑Iraq skepticism about military objectives permeated academia and tech culture (examples: divestment of military R&D from universities, campus limits on ROTC/recruiting).
  • Social and political polarization turned many policy questions into moral absolutes, pushing employees and companies to “take sides.”
  • New tech culture (the “Social Network” era: dorm‑room, consumer software mindsets) moved many engineers away from hardware and industrial problems.
  • Result: fewer engineers and startups focused on systems that intersect with national security and physical infrastructure.

What changed — why now is different

  • Ukraine demonstrated low‑cost, high‑impact technologies (cheap drones vs. expensive platforms), reframing weapons economics toward attritable, mass systems.
  • China’s long‑run industrial investments and global supply‑chain dominance highlighted the need for domestic manufacturing, critical minerals, and resilient supply lines.
  • Space and defense success stories (SpaceX, Palantir) proved startups can change government procurement dynamics; many engineers who trained at those firms are founding new companies.
  • Procurement and policy shifts: Congress, DoD, and allies are increasingly receptive to procurement reforms, competition, and faster acquisition paths.
  • Capital market shift: downstream and growth capital are now more willing to finance hard‑tech and hardware scale‑up, shrinking the “messy middle.”

Investment theses & priority sectors

  • Defense
    • Focus on “attritable” systems (cheap, mass‑produced drones and autonomous systems) rather than only exquisite, expensive platforms.
    • Opportunity in software + autonomy, battlefield iteration, counter‑drone, ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance).
  • Aerospace & Space Infrastructure
    • Decoupling/“unbundling” of the stack (satellite buses, ground stations, responsive launch) enables faster time‑to‑orbit and modular business models.
    • Space domain awareness and protecting low Earth orbit infrastructure are growing priorities.
  • Energy & Power
    • Insatiable demand for energy: AI compute, electrification, baseload needs. Invest in generation, transmission, storage (including advanced nuclear, modular solar).
    • Domestic battery and supply‑chain capability is strategically essential.
  • Manufacturing & Supply Chain
    • Advanced, automated manufacturing is the future — not a return to 1970s assembly lines. Robotics, factory automation, and “factory as product” approaches (learnings from SpaceX/Tesla) are key.
    • Critical minerals and localized upstream supply (mining, refining) are high priority.
  • Robotics & “Production” Companies
    • Physical robots are “AI in mechanical form” and could be the next trillion‑dollar industry. The U.S. should lead in design and manufacturing.
  • Public Safety & Education
    • Public safety tech (e.g., Flock Safety) and education infrastructure (e.g., Odyssey for Education Savings Accounts) are part of national resilience and civil infrastructure investments.

Portfolio examples referenced

  • Anduril — defense/autonomy and “rebuilding the arsenal of democracy”
  • Shield AI — autonomy/AI for defense
  • Flock Safety — public safety and camera/analytics systems
  • Apex Space — rapid satellite bus design and fast path to orbit
  • Northwood Space — ground station networks
  • Radiant Nuclear & ExoWatt — advanced power generation (nuclear, solar)
  • Base Power — energy manufacturing expertise from defense engineering
  • Odyssey — K–12 education financial rails for Education Savings Accounts

Founder profiles & what a16z looks for

  • Founders often have deep customer understanding: ex‑military, ex‑SpaceX/Anduril/Palantir employees, or entrepreneurs who sold to government previously.
  • Traits valued: domain empathy (can speak customer language), manufacturing experience or exposure to high‑complexity production, and the ability to navigate government procurement.
  • Startup archetypes: not necessarily dorm‑room coders — many founders come from regional, applied engineering or service backgrounds across the U.S. (Austin, Atlanta, etc.).

Policy & procurement changes advocated

  • Shorter, more flexible acquisition cycles (moving away from rigid 5‑year planning that mimics Soviet five‑year plans).
  • Procurement criteria that reward current capability and innovation over “past performance” only.
  • Increased competition and easier paths for startups to partner with primes and the government.
  • Provision of downstream finance and predictable demand signals so scale‑up is feasible outside of winning rare prime contracts.

Notable quotes / soundbites

  • “The creator of the concept of the five‑year plan was, of course, Joseph Stalin.” — used to criticize overly rigid planning cycles.
  • “SpaceX and Palantir walked so that everyone else could run.” — on early pioneers changing government procurement and perception.
  • “The factory is the product.” — describing the importance of manufacturing process innovation.
  • “Cheap drones could take out $100M tanks.” — Ukraine as a strategic technology wake‑up call.
  • “The war is going to be in space.” — emphasis on protecting and contesting low Earth orbit infrastructure.

Concrete asks / opportunities for founders and investors

  • High priority startup opportunities
    • Offensive and defensive space capabilities (space domain awareness, resilient LEO comms, offensive space hardware/software).
    • Energy: scalable generation, modular nuclear, domestic batteries, grid storage, transmission tech.
    • Advanced manufacturing: automated factories, robotics, factory software, “dumb parts” in bulk production.
    • Critical minerals and refining: domestic supply and processing for magnets, batteries, steel, copper.
    • Attritable defense systems: low‑cost drones/autonomy, mass‑production workflows.
  • For investors: be willing to fund the “messy middle” and downstream capital; partnerships and patient capital matter in hardware-heavy scaling.
  • For policymakers: reform procurement to reduce friction and reward modern engineering and competition.

Final perspective

  • The episode frames this moment as a potential “comeback” where American cultural strengths — dynamism, entrepreneurship, innovation — can be re‑applied to physical infrastructure, defense, energy, space, and manufacturing. The combination of geopolitical urgency, technological maturity (AI + modular hardware), capital availability, and procurement reform creates a rare opportunity to rebuild a resilient industrial base aligned with U.S. strategic interests.

If you want a quick action checklist from the episode:

  • Founders: consider building in offensive/defensive space, attritable systems, batteries, critical minerals, advanced manufacturing, or robotics.
  • Investors: evaluate venture‑scale opportunities where software multiplies commodity hardware; back downstream capital for hard‑tech scale.
  • Policymakers: shorten acquisition cycles, prioritize competition and startups, and create demand signals to insource critical capabilities.