Overview of The Watch
Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald open with some light banter about sports, World Cup fever, and New York’s celebratory energy before moving into a TV-heavy episode covering trailer/news updates, the state of the summer TV release calendar, a horror-movie detour inspired by Widow’s Bay, and a deep recap of Star City episode 4, “Dark Forest.” The conversation is equal parts industry analysis, pop culture riffing, and enthusiastic recommendations.
TV News and Industry Updates
Lioness Season 3 Teaser
- Andy is very enthusiastic about the new teaser for Lioness season 3.
- He describes the show as Taylor Sheridan’s darkest, most cynical project and suggests it feels like the most “pure” version of his style.
- The season appears to continue the tense marriage storyline between Zoe Saldaña and Dave Annable’s characters.
Sheridan-verse Expansion
- They discuss reports that the Sheridan universe may expand into video games.
- Chris jokes that Lioness would be the most obvious fit for a game because it already feels like a “Call of Duty” style story.
Legacy of Spies Casting
- The upcoming John le Carré adaptation Legacy of Spies is adding more cast.
- Hugh Laurie will reportedly play Control.
- Joe Alwyn has been cast as Jim Prideaux, which they see as an especially interesting and potentially make-or-break choice.
The Summer TV Schedule and the Emmy Problem
Are we in a late-summer TV dead zone?
- The hosts wonder if television is entering a kind of “1994-style” late-summer slowdown.
- They note that many prestige shows are concentrated in the Emmy window, which leaves a noticeable lull later in the year.
Emmys vs. scheduling reality
- Chris argues that streamers and networks may be over-optimizing for Emmy attention.
- He suggests the industry may be overcorrecting by crowding the first half of the year with awards-bait releases.
- Their broader point: in the current attention economy, staying in the conversation matters as much as winning awards.
Shows coming soon
They mention a few upcoming titles they’re watching for, including:
- House of the Dragon
- The Bear
- The Agency
- Lanterns
- Lucky
- Elle
- The Hawk
- Harry Potter (as a major future release)
Horror Corner: Andy’s First Steps Into the Genre
Weapons as a gateway
- Andy watched Weapons after being gradually eased into horror by Widow’s Bay.
- He says he enjoyed it and was surprised by how much he could handle when the emotional stakes felt real.
- Chris uses this as a springboard to build a “horror 101” list for horror-averse viewers.
Horror recommendations
Chris suggests:
- Shaun of the Dead
- Cabin in the Woods
- Scream 3
- The Invitation
- Red Rooms
- The Empty Man
- It Follows
- Strange Darling
- Green Room
- 28 Years Later / 28 Years Later: Bone Temple
What makes horror work for them
- They emphasize that movies feel easier to handle when the characters feel human and emotionally grounded.
- Andy notes that having control over the viewing environment at home made it easier to tolerate the intensity of Weapons.
Star City Episode 4: “Dark Forest”
Overall reaction
- Both hosts are very high on the episode.
- Chris says it’s among the best things released this year.
- They praise it for being patient, visually elegant, and unusually confident in its storytelling.
What the episode does well
- Uses long, cinematic scenes instead of rushing exposition.
- Trusts visual storytelling rather than over-explaining.
- Balances spycraft, emotional tension, and character-building in a way that feels old-school and effective.
Standout elements
- The revelation of how Valya was turned by U.S. intelligence is handled with style.
- Chief Designer continues to anchor the show with warmth and subtlety.
- A new character, Lakshmi, is introduced effectively.
- Irina’s investigation into the heat-conducting coil and the perfume clue is singled out as especially elegant spy writing.
- Anastasia’s arc and the fireworks sequence are described as both moving and beautifully shot.
Big-picture read
- The show is praised for making its world feel expansive while keeping the drama intimate.
- Chris and Andy think it rewards patience and benefits from its slow-burn structure, even if the runtime can feel intimidating at first.
Final Takeaway
This episode is a mix of TV industry talk, enthusiastic genre advocacy, and a strong endorsement of Star City’s fourth episode. The core ideas are:
- Prestige TV is increasingly shaped by award-season strategy.
- Lioness looks set to continue Sheridan’s dark, militarized storytelling.
- Andy’s horror education is progressing, thanks to Widow’s Bay and Weapons.
- Star City is emerging as one of the most impressive shows on TV right now.
They close by promising a special Widow’s Bay finale episode later in the week.
