Overview of The Watch — “The Odyssey” Is the Film Event of the Year. Plus, Resident Evil and Clayface Trailers.
Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald open with their usual banter before moving into a wide-ranging episode focused on three big film/TV topics: the new trailers for Clayface and Resident Evil, a deep spoiler-filled discussion of Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey, and some industry chatter about Marvel, James Gunn’s DC strategy, and the future of The Agency.
Trailer Reactions: Clayface and Resident Evil
Clayface
- The hosts think the trailer looks polished and like DC is intentionally choosing a darker, more horror-forward lane.
- They note that it feels notably separate from James Gunn’s usual tonal style.
- Andy says it looks like a movie he probably won’t want to watch, but he respects the strategy.
- They discuss the project’s evolution:
- Mike Flanagan originally developed it.
- James Watkins later came on to direct.
- Hossein Amini rewrote the script.
- They point out the film’s very British production footprint and its use of Gotham City as the setting.
Resident Evil
- They’re much more enthusiastic about this trailer.
- They like that it seems to show the movie’s opening stretch and doesn’t over-explain itself.
- Andy appreciates that it seems to blend horror, humor, and character rather than playing everything dead serious.
- They connect horror and comedy as genres that rely on timing, audience expectation, and release.
- Chris notes that the trailer’s use of “Raccoon City” feels delightfully faithful to the game’s weirdness.
Deep Dive: Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey
Spoiler warning is explicitly acknowledged in the conversation.
Overall reaction
- Both hosts agree the film is a major cinematic event and a huge conversation piece.
- Chris is more mixed on the movie’s emotional and tonal choices, while Andy is broadly impressed by the ambition and the craft.
- They both appreciate that it gives them something substantial to discuss, even when they don’t fully agree with all of its choices.
What they liked
- The movie’s scale and audacity.
- Nolan’s use of practical/physical filmmaking choices.
- The way the film handles major mythic scenes without leaning heavily on gods as literal active characters.
- Standout sequences they mention:
- The Circe transformation scene
- The siren sequence
- The Hades scene, which both consider one of the film’s best moments
- The physicality and visual imagination of the monsters and mythic set pieces.
What they found mixed or off
- Chris felt some performances were uneven or miscast.
- He thought some acting choices bordered on camp or felt too drab in palette and tone.
- He was less convinced by some of the film’s emotional beats and thought the movie sometimes leaned too hard into seriousness.
- Andy said the film had moments he loved, but also that parts of it felt ludicrous in a good, old-school epic way.
Performances they discuss
- Matt Damon: Strong central presence; Chris says his trustworthiness as a star both helps and complicates the role.
- Tom Holland: Chris felt Holland was in over his head at first, though improved on a second viewing.
- Anne Hathaway and Javier Bardem: Chris was less sold on them.
- John Leguizamo, Samantha Morton, Himesh Patel, and Bernthal: singled out more positively, especially for making the world feel lived-in.
- Robert Pattinson: both admire his willingness to play a sniveling, weird villain; Chris particularly likes how shamelessly odd his performance is.
Themes and interpretation
- They talk about the movie as a meditation on:
- Fate vs. control
- Human pragmatism vs. mythic destiny
- How much audiences now want “real” physical filmmaking
- They admire Nolan’s ability to turn complicated ideas into something legible and emotionally resonant.
- Chris says the film is partly about the end of one era and the beginning of another, with a strong emphasis on man-made decisions rather than divine intervention.
Industry and Franchise Talk
Marvel / Kevin Feige
- The episode briefly touches on Feige’s comments about Marvel’s long-term roadmap.
- They discuss how difficult Marvel’s current situation has been:
- COVID-era disruptions
- Streaming strategy
- The strikes
- Chadwick Boseman’s death
- The Jonathan Majors fallout
- Chris argues that while Marvel’s current visuals and corporate direction can be frustrating, the studio has also had to endure a lot of real-world upheaval.
DC / James Gunn
- They read Clayface as evidence that Gunn and DC may be willing to diversify tone and genre within the franchise.
- Chris is curious whether the movie will connect to the larger DC strategy or stay mostly self-contained.
The Agency and Jez Butterworth
The future of The Agency
- They say they’ll likely cover the show’s second season wrap-up on Monday.
- Andy has three episodes left and feels the show has gotten stronger as it has gone on.
- Chris is less confident about the show’s long-term future, but both agree it’s improved in pacing and cumulative storytelling.
Jez Butterworth’s new project
- They discuss Butterworth’s new Paramount+ project, Laird.
- It sounds like a Scottish/Yellowstone-style drama about a family fighting an American billionaire who wants to buy up Scottish land.
- They compare Butterworth’s workload and TV output to Taylor Sheridan’s model.
- They speculate that Paramount may be trying to replicate the “prestige soap opera” formula beyond Sheridan himself.
Key Takeaways
- Clayface suggests DC may be leaning into a darker, more horror-oriented corner of its universe.
- Resident Evil appears to be a more playful, promising horror adaptation than the hosts expected.
- The Odyssey is being treated as a major event film, but its power lies as much in its craft and ambition as in universal agreement about its success.
- The episode continues a bigger conversation about what audiences want from blockbuster filmmaking: practical texture, emotional clarity, and less empty franchise noise.
- The hosts are increasingly interested in how TV franchises are being built, sold, and sustained across streaming platforms and production regimes.
Housekeeping
- They say they’ll return on Monday to discuss The Agency in full.
- The episode ends with enthusiasm for continuing the conversation about The Odyssey and for more big-screen movies that actually inspire real debate.
