Chiefs, Bucs, and Drake Maye Are Big Winners. Plus, Danny Kanell on Penn State’s Overreaction, Indiana’s Biggest Win, and the SEC’s Problem.

Summary of Chiefs, Bucs, and Drake Maye Are Big Winners. Plus, Danny Kanell on Penn State’s Overreaction, Indiana’s Biggest Win, and the SEC’s Problem.

by The Ringer

2h 0mOctober 13, 2025

Overview of Chiefs, Bucs, and Drake Maye Are Big Winners. Plus, Danny Kanell on Penn State’s Overreaction, Indiana’s Biggest Win, and the SEC’s Problem

Host: The Ringer (Ryan Mallett)
This episode covers a packed Monday-football slate: NFL takeaways (Chiefs, Bucs, Drake Maye), college football shockers (Indiana’s big road win, Florida State’s collapse), a wide-ranging conversation with Danny Kanell about coaching, conference strength (SEC vs Big Ten), and Ryan’s own top-12 college rankings. The show closes with an extended Life Advice segment (listener letters about small domestic lies, engagement indecision, and an elderly grandfather’s self-destructive behavior).

Main segments and takeaways

NFL recap — winners, losers, and notable performances

  • Kansas City Chiefs
    • Best NFL win of the weekend: Chiefs’ convincing win over Detroit. Ryan views it as the best single win so far — Mahomes’ play and the Chiefs’ ability to run and close games were emphasized.
    • Mahomes: statistically better over last three games than first three; still the position’s gold standard in Ryan’s view.
    • Chiefs roster notes: Hollywood Brown touchdown, rookie Smith getting praise, Rice’s impending return (six-game suspension done).
  • Tampa Bay vs. San Francisco
    • Bucs’ notable win; Baker Mayfield’s highlight run/throw (3rd-and-14 to Tess Johnson for a TD). Tess Johnson quip: when he heard “MVP” chants he thought they were for him — self-aware and amusing moment.
  • Drake Maye (rookie QB)
    • Ryan was blown away by Maye’s poise and playmaking — multiple high-pressure completions (notable third-and-17/third-and-27 throws), a pocket escape/cross-field improvisation, and multiple TDs under pressure early in the game.
    • Takeaway: Maye shows NFL-level awareness and calm; Ryan calls him the best bet from the 2024 QB class to be the top player long term.
  • Other NFL notes
    • Chargers/Herbert: another week of concerns about pass protection; clutch plays & sacks matter late.
    • Trevor Lawrence/Jaguars: Massive pressure rate — Lawrence was pressured on ~59% of dropbacks in the Chiefs win (staggering number).
    • Jets: poor offensive showing with Justin Fields; the roster/contract jokes continue.

Notable NFL numbers called out:

  • Drake Maye: 7/8 and three TDs against pressure in the first half (audio claim on the episode).
  • Vita Vea: double‑teamed 70% of the time vs. SF but still produced pressures.
  • A staggering 59% pressure rate on Trevor Lawrence in that Chiefs game.

College football — Danny Kanell on several big stories

  • Indiana’s win at Oregon
    • Ryan and Danny both view Indiana’s road beatdown of Oregon as the single best win in college football so far — resume-enhancing, physical dominance in Eugene (a place few win).
    • Coaching praise for Kirk Cignetti: Ryan argues coaching matters more than ever (staff hires, game management, fourth-down decisions).
    • QB Mendoza and supporting cast: Mendoza’s throws and Indiana’s balanced attack earned Ryan’s respect; he moved Indiana high in his weekly Top 12.
  • Florida State meltdown
    • After the Alabama upset, FSU has cratered: three straight losses, historic missteps (first-time losses to Duke and an FCS team), defense cited as the biggest disappointment.
    • Mike Norvell’s seat/longer-term patience: Ryan urges patience but notes resources and booster pressure complicate the reaction.
  • Penn State / James Franklin
    • Danny and Ryan discuss Penn State’s firing of James Franklin and the optics: $50M+ buyout, timing of the move, booster funding, and whether mid-season firings actually help programs long-term.
    • Ryan warns about rushing coaching changes and the financial/operational ripple effects.
  • Conference-wide thoughts
    • SEC status: Danny and Ryan debate whether the SEC still holds the unquestioned edge. Both see depth but are skeptical about SEC headliners this year — the conference has many good teams but fewer true, dominant headliners so far.
    • Parity is up — gaps between conferences have narrowed; upsets abound (e.g., Tennessee scares, Ole Miss slip-ups), making the national landscape more open.

DK / Ryan’s Top 12 (week snapshot)

Ryan ran through DK’s Top 12 and his own ordering combining resume and belief. Key placement summary (Ryan’s current view):

  1. Ohio State — top on resume and belief; defense and C.J. Stroud trust building.
  2. Miami — strong and deserving of top slots after big wins.
  3. Indiana — surge after Oregon road win; Ryan gives them huge resume credit.
  4. Oregon — fell in some human polls after the loss, but still elite talent.
  5. Texas A&M — stout defense, excellent third-down numbers.
  6. Texas Tech — dark horse; offense + manageable remaining schedule could push them.
  7. Alabama — Ty Simpson, improved O-line, receiver depth.
  8. Ole Miss — undefeated but Ryan sees inconsistencies and tougher upcoming tests. (Other mentions — Texas, LSU, Georgia Tech were included in the broader mid/late spots Ryan discussed; resume vs. recency was a key tension.)

Why this matters: Ryan stresses resume-based ranking vs. recency bias — Indiana’s resume now merits Top-3 consideration even compared to traditional blue-bloods.

Notable quotes & lines

  • On Patrick Mahomes: “I can’t believe anybody talks about the NFL and thinks anyone plays this position better than this guy.”
  • Tess Johnson (Bucs): “When I score and I hear MVP chant, I’m thinking they talking about me... then I was like, they talking about Baker.”
  • On coaching & parity: “Coaching matters more now than it’s ever mattered before.”
  • On Drake Maye: his ball “ejects out of his hands” — Ryan’s colorful way of praising release and velocity.

Life Advice segment — listener letters and guidance

  • Apple-core lie (small domestic lie)
    • Listener tosses apple core out window, blames kids twice; advice: stop repeating the behavior, come clean if necessary, use simple procedural fixes (e.g., roll down correct window).
  • Engagement indecision — “nut up or shut up?”
    • Core advice: Ask yourself if you truly want to marry her. If yes, stop hesitating; if not, exit cleanly. Sometimes partners need a push/ultimatum — introspect and be honest with yourself and your partner.
  • Grandpa “hooker-fueled” spiral after grandma’s death
    • Family dilemma: grandfather turned reckless after grief (catfished, sexting, paying escorts, showing up at women’s houses). Daughters want to ban him from family events.
    • Panel consensus: attempt a group, structured intervention first (not immediate exile). Elements to consider:
      • Use a calm, unified group of family members (not just the daughters) to confront him about grief, finances, and risk.
      • Address finances proactively (limit access, establish allowances or direct deposits, fiduciary controls) to prevent him being drained.
      • Offer mental health/grief counseling and practical alternatives (community activities, vetted dating options).
      • If interventions fail and he’s harming family wellbeing/finances, hard boundaries may be necessary.
  • Ryan’s meta-note: he’s transitioning platforms (hints about new venture with Rudy & Kyle) and thanks listeners.

Practical takeaways / what to watch next

  • College football
    • Indiana is real — watch their remaining stretch for playoff/resume confirmation.
    • Monitor the SEC’s top teams (Alabama, Ole Miss, A&M) for consistency; depth is there, but headliners aren’t blowing people away.
    • Keep an eye on coaching carousel and mid-season firings — big buyout implications and long-term program effects.
  • NFL
    • Chiefs remain a team to trust even with an iffy record — Mahomes, weapons, and running game trending up.
    • Drake Maye: rookie to monitor closely for poise under pressure and big-play potential.
    • Watch QB protection/pressure metrics (e.g., Lawrence’s heavy pressure rate) — they’ll dictate playoff outcomes.
  • For families facing elder recklessness: try intervention + financial controls before cutting ties.

Notable stats & quick hitters called out on the episode

  • A&M: opponents convert on only 20.5% of third downs (A&M’s opposing third-down conversion rate noted as elite).
  • Trevor Lawrence: pressured on 59% of dropbacks in Chiefs game.
  • Vita Vea: double-teamed 70% of the time vs. San Francisco in one game but still produced five pressures.
  • Drake Maye: multiple high-pressure TDs in the first half of his featured game (7/8 in one stretch — as reported on the show).
  • Fun/joke stat: “Teams averaging 1.8 flea flickers per week” — delivered tongue-in-cheek.

Bottom line

  • NFL: Chiefs are back on form; rookie QB play (Drake Maye) is a major storyline; pressure and protection remain decisive factors.
  • College: Indiana’s road destruction of Oregon is a resume-defining moment; the national landscape is more open and chaotic than usual — coaching and scheme decisions are a bigger differentiator than ever.
  • Family & life: interventions and honest conversations are recommended before punitive measures; know when to commit or be honest in personal relationships.

If you want the episode’s highlights at a glance: tune in for the Danny Kanell interview (college coaching/conference debate), the Drake Maye breakdown (rookie QB poise), and Ryan’s weekly Top-12 (Indiana jump + SEC skepticism).