PMS 2.0 1526 - Cooper Flagg, Chase Daniel, WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert, Dan Orlovsky, & Darius Butler

Summary of PMS 2.0 1526 - Cooper Flagg, Chase Daniel, WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert, Dan Orlovsky, & Darius Butler

by Pat McAfee, ESPN

2h 52mApril 1, 2026

Overview of PMS 2.0 1526 — Pat McAfee (ESPN)

This episode (airing April 1) mixes hot-take sports talk with long interviews and league business coverage. Pat and the crew react to an explosive Jeremy Fowler piece about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles, recap league meetings drama, and talk NBA/college hoops and MLB highlights. Guests include Cooper Flagg (Dallas Mavericks rookie), former NFL QB/ESPN analyst Chase Daniel, WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert, former NFL QB Dan Orlovsky (phone), and 9-year NFL vet Darius Butler. The show also covers March Madness viewing numbers, the new WNBA CBA, Fernando Mendoza’s pro day, Shohei Ohtani’s pitching, and lighter pop-culture/sports moments.

Major topics covered

  • Jalen Hurts / Philadelphia Eagles drama

    • Jeremy Fowler article claiming Hurts’ playstyle had “calcified” the offense; anonymous team sources alleging leadership/friction issues.
    • Discussion about timing (post-league meetings), past Eagles locker-room narratives, and how anonymous sourcing complicates evaluation.
    • Guests (Darius Butler, Chase Daniel) call out anonymous-sourcing, debate whether Hurts can/should change his game, and note market-specific media intensity in Philly.
  • NFL league meetings and broader NFL business

    • Coaches’ camaraderie, new head-coach class chemistry, and playful anecdotes (Mike Vrabel “dominating” coach photo dynamics).
    • Monday Night Football doubleheader removed; discussion of a la carte international/game scheduling and increased streaming revenue opportunities.
    • Notes on more short-week flexibility and potential for more marquee non-Sunday games (Christmas Eve/Thanksgiving Eve, etc.).
  • NBA & NBA rookies

    • Cooper Flagg interview: rookie season challenges with a losing Mavericks team, personal development (handling, playmaking, point-guard duties), background (Team USA, Duke, Maine), and being one of few teenagers averaging 20+ points.
    • Broader NBA commentary: young star generation (Wemby, Cade, etc.), playoff expectations, complaints about tanking/have/have-not dynamics.
  • College basketball / March Madness

    • Recorded TV numbers: biggest NCAA Tournament viewership since early 1990s; Elite Eight and Sweet 16 up substantially.
    • Discussion of NIL, transfer portal changing typical “Cinderella” dynamic; Dan Hurley/UConn dominance and Dan Hurley’s betting edge (UConn 10-0 ATS Sweet 16+).
  • WNBA & labor deal

    • Interview with WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert about the recently completed 7-year CBA: big player salary gains, revenue-sharing structure (players get share of full team/league revenue), roster changes, development players, and planned expansion (Portland, Toronto, Philly referenced).
    • Engelbert emphasized sustainable financial model, long-term growth, corporate and broadcast partnerships (ESPN/Disney, NBC, Amazon), and the league’s 30th-season context.
  • MLB / Shohei Ohtani / other baseball bits

    • Shohei Ohtani strong pitching performance pre-season (6 K, one hit, on-base success) and discussion of the rarity/physical challenge of being a regular two-way player.
    • Paul Skenes’ continued struggles for Pirates; “hoist the cone” fan/merch tradition anecdote.
  • NFL draft / pro day coverage

    • On-site report from Fernando Mendoza’s pro day (Indiana) — strong throws, command of intermediate routes, large crowd and positive projection for #1 pick status.
  • NHL highlights

    • Sidney Crosby’s longevity/consistency; Ovechkin continues to produce 30+ goals seasons; playoff races and trending teams discussed.

Notable guest highlights & quotes

  • Cooper Flagg (Mavericks)

    • Honest take on a tough rookie season: learning on the fly, moved around between positions, embracing more playmaking responsibility from coach Jason Kidd.
    • On playing with Team USA pre-college: boosted confidence and accelerated development.
  • Chase Daniel (ESPN, ex-NFL QB)

    • Strong pushback on anonymous-sourced “hit pieces”: “Put your name behind it” — criticized the practice of using unnamed team sources to attack a franchise QB.
    • Tactical insight: Hurts’ strengths (shotgun, half-field progression passer) vs. what offense under center and a run/play-action emphasis would test.
  • Kathy Engelbert (WNBA Commissioner)

    • On the CBA: framed the deal as balancing significant player pay/benefits with a sustainable business model for owners; heralded revenue sharing and development roster spots.
    • Expansion/strategy: data-driven market selection for expansion; corporate and broadcast investments key to funding pay increases.
  • Dan Orlovsky

    • Calls pro days “throwing-well” environments but notes evaluators focus on timing, target placement and intermediate routes; reiterated scrutiny of Hurts narrative.

Key takeaways

  • The Eagles story about Jalen Hurts is a major media narrative with real organizational implications — coverage should be treated cautiously because of anonymous sourcing but it can’t be ignored.
  • The WNBA’s new 7-year CBA is a landmark moment: meaningful salary increases, revenue sharing tied to league/team revenue, roster expansion and development slots — the league is positioning for scalable, sustainable growth.
  • Cooper Flagg is progressing as a high-upside rookie despite team losses; his early-season numbers and Team USA/Duke pedigree keep him in the NBA’s future-star conversation.
  • College basketball is experiencing a resurgence in mainstream viewership (largest tournament numbers in decades) which is influencing perception of the sport’s health post-NIL/transfer era.
  • Shohei Ohtani continuing two-way success is historic and watching whether he can sustain a pitcher-hitter heavy workload is a major storyline for MLB.
  • The NFL continues to monetize non-traditional time slots and international games, and broader broadcast/streaming moves will shape future revenue and cap growth.

Quick “what to watch / important dates” (called out in episode)

  • WNBA Draft: April 13 (New York City)
  • WNBA season tip-off: May 8
  • NCAA Final Four weekend (Indianapolis): imminent (coverage discussed)
  • Watch: Cooper Flagg’s continued growth for the Mavericks (rookie of the year conversation), Shohei Ohtani starts/pitching workload, Fernando Mendoza as potential No. 1 overall draft pick (pro day buzz).

Notable stats & nuggets

  • March Madness TV: Elite Eight peaked ~18.9M viewers on CBS; overall viewership up ~9–15% in windows cited.
  • Dan Hurley / UConn: 10-0 against the spread in Sweet 16+ matchups; 18-3 overall in NCAA tournament per Dan Hurley stat cited.
  • Cooper Flagg: one of a small group of teenagers averaging 20+ PPG in an NBA season alongside Luka, LeBron, Durant, Melo (contextual comparison cited on show).
  • WNBA: league entering 30th season; roster and roster-count changes will increase total league roster spots (projected 180+ players this year, 216 by decade end).

Final notes / tone

  • The episode blends analysis and personality-driven banter — expect humor, riffs, and strong opinions alongside substantive interviews (especially Engelbert and Flagg).
  • Recurring theme: major sports leagues are evolving fast (media rights, labor deals, expansion, global talent flows). The conversation highlights both the business mechanics (CBA, revenue share) and the human side (locker-room narratives, player development).

If you want a super-short takeaway: WNBA set the foundation for real growth with a landmark CBA; the Eagles/QB story is the week’s big controversial narrative; Cooper Flagg and college/NBA youth wave remain must-watch; and Shohei Ohtani continues to produce historically rare two-way value.