Overview of PMS 2.0 1651
This episode is a packed NFL kickoff Thursday show built around the Week 7 primetime matchup between the New England Patriots and Chicago Bears, with heavy discussion of Drake Maye vs. Caleb Williams, betting angles, and what this game could mean for the future of both franchises. The crew also dives into college football storylines with Kirk Herbstreit and Dalton Kincaid, then shifts to the NBA opening week with Kendrick Perkins. Pat also shares a personal update about attending the premiere of The Mosquito Bowl.
Thursday Night Football Preview: Patriots vs. Bears
Key matchup themes
- The show frames Drake Maye vs. Caleb Williams as a potential preview of future AFC/NFC playoff battles.
- Both quarterbacks are viewed as cornerstone talents from the 2024 draft class, with the teams hoping to build sustained success around them.
- The discussion centers on:
- New England’s defense being physical, aggressive, and opportunistic.
- Chicago’s offense under Ben Johnson becoming more disciplined, run-heavy, and efficient.
- Both quarterbacks needing to stay comfortable against blitz-heavy looks and short-week pressure.
Betting angle / team consensus
- The crew ultimately lands on Patriots +3.
- They also ride a boosted prop: both Drake Maye and Caleb Williams to throw for 210+ yards.
- Key betting logic:
- Primetime underdogs have covered well.
- Mike Vrabel is strong as a dog.
- Both teams have enough passing volume and offensive ability to make the yardage prop attractive.
What the guests said about the game
- Kirk Herbstreit:
- Expects a close, physical game.
- Says New England’s defense is one of the nastiest units in the league.
- Notes Chicago’s run game is the engine of the offense.
- Thinks Maye has settled in after an early-season slump.
- Chuck Pagano:
- Picks the Bears.
- Emphasizes Chicago’s ability to control the clock and run the ball.
- Says New England’s injured offensive line could be a major issue.
- Believes the Bears’ defense can force Maye into long-yardage situations.
Guest Interview: Dalton Kincaid
Utah and alumni culture
- Kincaid is returning to Utah as a celebrity guest picker for College GameDay.
- He praised the way Morgan Scalley has kept alumni connected to the program.
- Kincaid said Utah’s 6-0 start and strong culture have made the environment feel special again.
Bills offense and coaching staff
- He said the Bills’ offense feels “seamless” under Joe Brady.
- Praised Josh Allen for playing at an elite level.
- Noted the team’s mindset is simply to “go score points.”
College Football with Kirk Herbstreit
Ohio State QB situation
- Herbstreit discussed the uncertainty around Ohio State after the injury to Julian Sayin.
- He said the Buckeyes’ remaining schedule is difficult enough that they don’t have much room to experiment at quarterback.
- He expects the coaching staff to make the final call based on practice, staff input, and player input.
Indiana, Texas, Michigan, and more
- Herbstreit called Indiana a legitimate power under Curt Cignetti.
- He said the Hoosiers are fundamentally sound and capable of beating quality teams.
- He flagged Texas vs. Ole Miss as a major pressure game, especially for Arch Manning and Steve Sarkisian.
- He also said Michigan’s quarterback change adds intrigue and makes this weekend a defining one for several programs.
Sam Darnold / Seahawks note
- Herbstreit said Seattle needs a stronger run game to support Sam Darnold and reduce turnovers.
- He stressed how much the Seahawks miss a true lead back to stabilize the offense.
NBA Talk with Kendrick Perkins
First impressions of the new season
- Perk believes this could be one of the most competitive NBA seasons in years.
- He thinks there are 20–25 teams that can realistically dream about a title.
- His early MVP pick: Anthony Edwards.
Major NBA takeaways
- He raved about Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball as a devastating backcourt pairing.
- He praised Tyrese Haliburton’s emotional return, saying the Pacers guard clearly missed basketball and looked energized.
- He believes the Lakers’ offense will be dangerous with Luka leading the way.
- He thinks the Warriors are heading toward the play-in unless Steph Curry gets more help.
- He wants Victor Wembanyama to embrace being a true big man first, and said the Spurs need to feed him the ball more in the paint.
Best moment of the NBA segment
- Perk and Conner got into a heated back-and-forth over the Celtics/Lakers discussion, which added some entertainment to the basketball segment.
Other Notable Moments
The Mosquito Bowl premiere
- Pat shared that he was attending the premiere of The Mosquito Bowl in Los Angeles.
- He talked with First Sergeant Garland, who served as a Marine drill instructor and appears in the film.
- The movie is described as a serious World War II story about college football players who became Marines.
“Shite Division” update
- The crew updated their weekly worst-teams tracker.
- New additions included:
- Indianapolis Colts
- Los Angeles Chargers
- NFC East
- Los Angeles Rams
- The segment remains a humorous look at the NFL’s most disappointing teams week to week.
Final Pick and Takeaway
- The crew’s final official lean was:
- Patriots +3
- Both Maye and Williams over 210 passing yards
- The episode’s main theme was clear: this Thursday night game is being treated as a glimpse into the future of the NFL, with two young quarterbacks, two aggressive defenses, and two teams trying to establish long-term identity.