Overview of Ridiculous Anti-ICE Celebs at Grammys, Savannah Guthrie's Mom Missing, and Lemon's "Journalism," with Jesse Kelly, Jonathan Turley, and Matt Murphy | Ep. 1243
This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show (SiriusXM) features three main blocks: a wide-ranging, opinionated chat with Jesse Kelly about the Grammys, celebrity politics and cultural collapse; a legal and historical interview with George Washington law professor Jonathan Turley about his new book Rage and the Republic and current legal flashpoints (including the Don Lemon indictment and federal/local immigration enforcement); and a breaking-news discussion with former federal prosecutor Matt Murphy about the disappearance of NBC anchor Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie. The program mixes cultural critique, legal analysis, and a fast-moving missing-person briefing.
Key segments
Jesse Kelly on the Grammys, celebrity activism, fashion and culture
- Critique of celebrities who used the Grammys to speak against ICE and immigration enforcement — argued they’re wealthy, insulated, and hypocritical.
- Complaints about performance-politic mixing: “Sing for me” theme—Kelly and Megyn push that artists should stick to art, not policy.
- Mockery of red-carpet nudity, age-inappropriate sexual presentation (Heidi Klum, Addison Rae, Kaylee Amstutz/“Chappell Roan” in the transcript), and what they call stunt-driven celebrity culture.
- Discussion of Bad Bunny and Bon Iver’s anti-ICE statements; concerns about elite safety bubbles and virtue-signaling.
- Broader theme: cultural institutions and influential positions have been captured by people Kelly deems unfit to make policy decisions.
Jonathan Turley — Rage and the Republic (book) and legal analysis
- Book pitch: Rage and the Republic (out/available for pre-order) — examines the American founding vs. the French Revolution, the rise of “new Jacobins,” and how rage can destroy republican institutions.
- Key themes: need to preserve federalism, liberty-enhancing economy, capitalism (Adam Smith), and how AI/robotics could disrupt jobs and civic relationships.
- Legal discussion:
- Don Lemon indictment for storming a church in Minneapolis: Turley sees a strong First Amendment/journalism argument likely to favor Lemon in court, though prosecution exists and the facts matter (trespass, disruption).
- FACE Act and its application: debate over whether FACE protects houses of worship (AG Ellison contended it doesn’t; hosts disagree).
- Federal vs. local enforcement of immigration law: anti-commandeering doctrine prevents forcing localities to enforce federal law; federal authority to act remains but faces local resistance (Minneapolis example).
- Concerns about activist journalism and the blurred line between reporting and advocacy; historical parallels to revolutionary journalists.
Savannah Guthrie’s mother missing — Matt Murphy (former federal prosecutor)
- Facts reported: Nancy Guthrie (age 84) missing from her Tucson, AZ home; last seen after a church event on Saturday night (~9:45 pm). She reportedly does not have dementia and needs medication.
- Investigative status: Pima County has declared the residence a crime scene; search-and-rescue teams, Border Patrol K-9s, FBI and CBP assisting; homicide detectives involved.
- Observations from Murphy: urgency (medical needs), possible scenarios (abduction, medical emergency, or other foul play), value of camera footage and witnesses, and typical investigative steps (canine tracking, federal/local cooperation).
- Sheriff referenced in the broadcast: Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos (named in the piece) asking public assistance.
Main takeaways
- Celebrity activism at awards shows (anti-ICE/immigration messaging) drew strong criticism for hypocrisy, performative politics, and cultural posturing — hosts see it as emblematic of broader cultural decline.
- The episode frames a key cultural argument: talented entertainers are not automatically qualified to make complex public-policy prescriptions.
- Jonathan Turley’s book frames modern political activism as a new-Jacobin phenomenon — historical lesson: revolutionary rage can destroy institutions unless checked by law, federalism, and economic stability.
- Don Lemon’s legal situation raises difficult questions at the intersection of protest, journalism, trespass, and the FACE Act — courts will have to refine lines between reporting and advocacy.
- Federal immigration enforcement continues to be hampered by sanctuary policies, anti-commandeering principles, politically active local officials, and contested judicial decisions.
- The Savannah Guthrie missing-person matter is urgent and concerning: available facts (belongings left behind, declared crime scene, age/health factors) point to a serious investigation under way.
Notable quotes and soundbites
- Jesse Kelly: “Sing for me, bitch” — summing up his view that performers should perform rather than lead public policy debates.
- Kelly on celebrity hypocrisy: pointed to celebrities’ gated estates/security while advocating open borders for others.
- Jonathan Turley on revolutions: contrasted Thomas Paine (spark of revolution) with James Madison (architect who converted revolution into republic) — central theme of Rage and the Republic.
- Turley on the courts: expects First Amendment defenses to be persuasive for journalists accused in protest-related matters, but cautions facts and conduct matter.
- Sheriff Chris Nanos (as read in transcript): investigators “believe we do in fact have a crime scene” regarding Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.
Legal cases and policy points summarized
- Don Lemon indictment: charged after joining church protestors — legal questions include trespass, conspiracy against rights, and whether acting “as a journalist” provides immunity/defense.
- FACE Act: originally framed as protecting access to health facilities (notably abortion clinics) but applies more broadly; AG Keith Ellison’s interpretation (narrow) is disputed by hosts and legal commentators.
- Anti-commandeering: Supreme Court precedent prevents the federal government from forcing states/localities to enforce federal law — means cooperation with ICE is political and discretionary.
- Recent court rulings: examples in the episode include a judge in Texas (Judge Fred Biery—per transcript) ordering release of a father and child (contentious wording and rhetoric in opinion), and another judge (Judge Catherine Menendez—per transcript) rejecting a challenge to federal enforcement in Minnesota.
Action items / what listeners might do next
- If interested in the legal/historical argument: pre-order Jonathan Turley’s Rage and the Republic.
- Follow updates on the Nancy Guthrie missing-person investigation (local Pima County Sheriff Department and national outlets) if you want the latest facts.
- If you want to see the families and victims discussion referenced, the show pointed listeners to a YouTube tribute (seven minutes) about Americans killed by criminal illegal aliens.
- If you’re concerned about halftime show politics, hosts suggested viewers who disagree could turn the channel off during the performance to register disapproval (instructional/persuasive suggestion from show).
Quick summary — tone and perspective
- The episode is opinion-heavy and politically conservative in tone: critical of celebrity left-wing activism, skeptical of public defenders of sanctuary policies, and alarmed by what it sees as institutional capture by activist media and cultural elites.
- Legal analysis by Jonathan Turley provides historical framing and a slightly more neutral, academic voice, though he shares concerns about activist movements and judicial politicization.
- The missing-person segment is earnest and urgent; the show treats it as a serious criminal investigation with federal/local resources committed.
If you want a one-line recap: the show condemns celebrity anti-ICE theatrics as hypocritical and symptomatic, analyzes the Don Lemon charges within First Amendment and FACE Act tensions (Turley argues courts may favor Lemon), and reports an alarming, active criminal investigation into Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with federal assistance.