Overview of Leftists Melt Down Over Stephen Miller, Katy Perry's Hypocrisy, and Toprah Interviews Mom (Ep. 1240)
This episode of The Megyn Kelly Show (guest: Emily Jashinsky of After Party) focuses on the federal immigration enforcement surge in Minneapolis, the politically explosive Border Patrol shooting of Alex Preddy, the administration messaging fallout (including Kristi Noem and a CBP leader being criticized/removed), and the extreme responses from Hollywood, media personalities, and some medical professionals. The discussion mixes policy analysis (sanctuary-city limits, possible carrots/sticks to change incentives) with cultural commentary on celebrity hypocrisy and media coverage.
Guest & show context
- Guest: Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party (MK Media Podcast Network). She co-hosts the MK Wrap-Up show and appears to continue these topics on her own show.
- Core frame: defenders of the enforcement operation argue officers acted in an “imperfect self-defense” context; critics on the left respond with extreme rhetoric (Holocaust/Nuremberg comparisons, calls to defund ICE), while some medical staff made violent online statements and were fired.
Key topics discussed
Minneapolis ICE surge, sanctuary-city standoff
- Federal agents (ICE/CBP) were sent to Minneapolis to arrest noncitizens with ICE detainers; city/state sanctuary policies and Mayor Jacob Frey (and local officials) have refused cooperation.
- Tom Homan (mentioned) and the White House sought cooperation; Gov. Tim Walz and Minneapolis leadership reportedly resisted.
- Political challenge: how to enforce federal immigration law when sanctuary jurisdictions decline to help; public opinion polls (cited Daily Mail) showing plurality blame the administration.
Alex Preddy shooting and CBP response
- CBS report (cited) said two Border Patrol agents fired after a struggle; agents reported hearing “gun, gun, gun.” DHS confirmed agents were placed on administrative leave (standard protocol).
- Signal-chat analysis (Andy Ngo / Oversight Project) indicates activists may have tracked/stalked federal agents and that Preddy may have been part of a coordinated group that followed ICE movements.
- Emily’s view: likely a case of imperfect self-defense — agents believed lives were at risk, but facts were overstated by early administration messaging.
Administration messaging, personnel fallout
- Kristi Noem and a CBP commander (named “Bovino” in the transcript) reportedly overreached with early statements claiming Preddy intended to massacre officers; that overstatement cost political credibility.
- Internal leaks and finger-pointing followed; talk of potential demotion or reshuffle rather than firing was discussed.
Legislative/strategic developments
- Reports Democrats may try to condition ICE funding on a requirement for judicial criminal warrants for ICE arrests (characterized as a de facto amnesty by the hosts).
- Ideas floated: stronger enforcement surge, Insurrection Act talk from hardliners, or using carrots (expand self-deportation incentives—larger cash offers) and sticks (punish sanctuary jurisdictions) to change incentives.
Celebrity and media reactions — hypocrisy and extreme rhetoric
- Kara Swisher compared Stephen Miller to Heinrich Himmler; Scott Galloway mentioned “Nuremberg”-style accountability — both cited as reckless/hyperbolic.
- Molly Ringwald called the U.S. “a fascist government.” Katy Perry urged blocking ICE funding while participating in high-carbon/elite events (space flight, Davos) — cited as hypocrisy.
- Ben Cohen (Ben & Jerry’s) called to “defund ICE” (with dismissive ice-cream quip); Ellen, Ethan Hawke and others also weighed in, often portrayed here as tone-deaf or performative.
Medical workers and online threats
- Videos surfaced of nurses advocating harm to ICE agents (VCU nurse Melinda Cook and Florida nurse Lexi Lawler). Both were fired; Florida revoked practice permissions for at least one.
- The American Nurses Association was criticized for strong statements about Preddy yet inaction on other incidents (per hosts).
Media coverage critique (CBS / “Topra” / evening news)
- The hosts criticize mainstream outlets for selective footage and soft coverage of protests/agitators; they singled out CBS evening news/anchor segments as lacking gravitas and for airing light, human-interest pieces at times inconsistent with hard news expectations.
Main takeaways
- Legal/political limits: Sanctuary cities cannot easily be forced to assist federal immigration enforcement, creating a persistent enforcement gap and political friction.
- Messaging matters: Early, overstated official claims about the Preddy shooting created reputational damage and fueled media and political backlash; measured communication is essential in volatile enforcement operations.
- Polarization fuels extremes: On the left, some high-profile commentators used Holocaust/Nuremberg language and incendiary comparisons; on the right, there are calls to escalate enforcement or adopt new incentive strategies.
- Operational reality: Border and ICE agents face chaotic, dangerous on-the-ground conditions (whistles, doxxing, activist interference) that complicate safe enforcement and morale.
- Possible policy responses floated: increase self-deportation incentives (cash) to encourage voluntary departures; consider targeted penalties or restrictions for sanctuary jurisdictions; focus enforcement on violent offenders while using carrots for nonviolent migrants as a pragmatic trade-off.
Notable quotes and riffs from the episode
- Paraphrase: Jacob Frey — “violent criminals should be held accountable based on crimes, not where they’re from” (called a political dodge by the hosts).
- Kara Swisher (cited): compared Stephen Miller to Himmler — described on the show as “beyond the pale” rhetoric that endangers people.
- Scott Galloway (cited): suggested Nuremberg-style accountability — criticized as unrealistic and extreme.
- Emily Jashinsky: described the Preddy shooting as “imperfect self-defense” and argued the agents likely believed they were protecting themselves/others.
- Calls for policy: “double the self-deportation bonus” suggested as cheaper and more pragmatic than endless enforcement operations.
Evidence & sources referenced on the show
- Wall Street Journal opinion/coverage by Tom Homan (preliminary meetings / cooperation claims).
- CBS News obtained CBP report on the Preddy shooting.
- DHS confirmation to Fox that involved agents were on administrative leave.
- Signal-chat analysis reported by Andy Ngo and the Oversight Project linking activists to tracking ICE vehicles.
- Polling mention: Daily Mail poll claiming plurality blame the administration for chaos in Minneapolis.
Bottom-line summary
This episode frames the Minneapolis enforcement surge and the Alex Preddy shooting as a complex mix of operational danger, politicized messaging failures, and extreme cultural responses. The guest argues enforcement is legally and practically hampered by sanctuary policies, that early administration overstatements worsened public perception, and that pragmatic options (stronger targeted enforcement plus bigger voluntary-removal incentives) may be more effective than broad surges in sanctuary cities. The hosts also highlight what they view as left-wing excesses — extreme rhetoric (Holocaust/Nuremberg comparisons), celebrity hypocrisy, and dangerous social-media threats from some nurses — while criticizing mainstream media coverage for imbalance.
For further follow-up listening/reading (as recommended on the show)
- Emily Jashinsky’s After Party (YouTube live at 10 p.m. ET; afterpartyemily.com).
- Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up show on SiriusXM Channel 111 (immediately after the main show).
- Coverage referenced: Wall Street Journal pieces on the Minneapolis operation; CBS reporting on the CBP incident; Andy Ngo/Oversight Project Signal-chat thread.