Daniel Cormier Show - Kamaru Usman on getting KNOCKED OUT by Leon Edwards, UFC title run, beating Buckley

Summary of Daniel Cormier Show - Kamaru Usman on getting KNOCKED OUT by Leon Edwards, UFC title run, beating Buckley

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1h 18mNovember 20, 2025

Overview of Daniel Cormier Show — Kamaru Usman on getting KNOCKED OUT by Leon Edwards, UFC title run, beating Buckley

Daniel Cormier interviews former undisputed UFC welterweight champion Kamaru “The Nigerian Nightmare” Usman about his life, career arc and identity beyond fighting. The conversation covers Usman’s upbringing in Nigeria and immigrant experience, his wrestling roots and transition to MMA, the training relationships that shaped him (Rashad Evans, Anthony Johnson, Michael Johnson), the devastating head‑kick KO loss to Leon Edwards and the emotional comeback vs. Joaquin Buckley, fatherhood and work/life balance, and his post‑fight plans (podcasting, TV, fashion). Throughout he reflects on legacy, mental resilience and the values that drive him.

Guest snapshot

  • Name: Kamaru Usman (“The Nigerian Nightmare”)
  • Background: Born in Nigeria; moved to the U.S.; Olympic training center resident; collegiate national wrestling champion/All‑American; became UFC welterweight champion and put together one of the sport’s longest win streaks.
  • Key roles: Fighter, father, mentor, podcaster/aspiring TV/ fashion personality.

Key topics discussed

  • Early life and immigration
    • Growing up in Nigeria; humble upbringing (farming, family store), strong sense of cultural identity.
    • Family moved to U.S. for opportunity; faced assimilation challenges (ESL, kids being cruel).
  • Transition from wrestling to MMA
    • Initial love for wrestling; gradual shift after 2012 trials and early sparring experiences.
    • Struggles learning striking/kickboxing and adapting balance and distance.
  • Training and mentors
    • Lived and trained with Rashad Evans; close training with Anthony Johnson and Michael Johnson; “Black Zillions” team environment.
    • Sparring anecdotes: being dominated by Rashad, nearly knocking out Danilo Villafor and being knocked down in practice by Michael Johnson — all pivotal growth moments.
  • Career highs and lows
    • Long UFC win streak and dominant reign as welterweight champion.
    • Devastating KO loss to Leon Edwards (head kick in final round) — blackout around knockout, emotional impact, hospital trip and confusion immediately after.
    • Redemption vs. Joaquin Buckley: pressure of back‑to‑back losses, how doubt affected him, emotional relief in victory.
  • Identity, name and pride
    • Story behind being called “Marty” in youth; decision to reclaim and represent his full name (Kamarudian/Usman).
  • Fatherhood and balance
    • Deep emphasis on being present for his daughters; the tension between training/economic opportunities and family time.
  • Loss of Anthony Johnson
    • Mourning, a personal relationship and the emotional impact of Johnson’s illness and death.
  • Future and legacy
    • Wants to be remembered as someone who “did right” by people he encountered (coaches, trainers, partners).
    • Plans to pivot into podcasting, television, fashion while ending the fighting chapter with integrity.

Major takeaways

  • Consistency is core: Usman repeatedly credits relentless, consistent work as the single biggest factor in his rise.
  • Mentors matter: Living with and training alongside established fighters accelerated his growth; representation and proximity to success shaped his belief system.
  • Adversity can be a blessing: The losses, isolation and doubt sharpened his appreciation and motivated his comeback.
  • Fatherhood reframes priorities: Being present with his kids is a pivotal motivator and a key factor in deciding how/when to wind down his fighting career.
  • Legacy goal = “I did right by you”: beyond championships, he wants people he worked with to feel he treated them well.

Notable anecdotes & quotes

  • Sparring with Rashad Evans: “He crucified me… that moment almost broke me.” (A turning point that motivated skill development.)
  • On the Leon Edwards knockout: blackout memory — “It’s like your computer shuts down, boom, and then reboots; the time in between has no new information.”
  • On reclaiming his name: he accepted “Marty” as a kid but later decided “I have to represent that [my full name]. I’m a grown man now.”
  • Pursuit of happiness framework: three levels — floor (emotion) your parents; the pride of your kids; the circle where they repay it later.
  • Advice to younger fighters: “Just work. Stay consistent. And trust the unknown.”

Lessons & practical advice (for fighters and listeners)

  • For aspiring athletes: Consistency beats occasional brilliance — daily, small work compounds into elite performance.
  • For anyone facing doubt: Use setbacks as a testing ground; adversity can clarify what you value and rebuild motivation.
  • For parents/athletes balancing career and family: Build routines and be present where you can; accept tradeoffs but prioritize meaningful moments.
  • To protect your reputation: Treat people well in every interaction — Usman’s stated legacy priority is being known as someone who “did right by me.”

How Usman wants to be remembered

  • Not just as a great fighter but as a person who treated coaches, trainers, teammates and family right — someone who used his success to positively impact those around him.

Quick summary (3 bullets)

  • Kamaru Usman traces his evolution from a Nigerian childhood to Olympic‑level wrestling to UFC champion, highlighting how mentorship, brutal sparring, and relentless consistency built his career.
  • He candidly discusses the Leon Edwards KO (memory gap and emotional fallout) and the pressure/doubt before his comeback vs. Joaquin Buckley — a moment of profound relief and validation.
  • Today’s focus is family, legacy and transition: being present as a father, expanding into media/fashion, and leaving the sport having “done right” by the people who helped him.

If you want a one-sentence takeaway: Usman’s story is about discipline, humility and the hard emotional work of balancing greatness with humanity — and how setbacks often become the soil for the next chapter.