Overview of THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 (ft. Raw Egg Nationalist)
Charlie Kirk hosts Episode 113 of Thought Crime with guest Dr. Charles Cornish Dale (aka the Raw Egg Nationalist). The conversation centers on Dr. Cornish Dale’s new book The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, which argues declining male testosterone is reshaping culture and politics. The episode also covers the “suicidal penguin” meme (Werner Herzog footage and symbolic readings), a debate about pit bulls and public safety, and practical/narrative prescriptions for reversing biological and cultural decline.
Key topics discussed
- The Last Men (book) thesis: falling testosterone among men and its political/cultural consequences.
- Causes of testosterone decline: lifestyle (sleep, diet, exercise), environmental toxins (pesticides, PFAS, plastics), and broader social changes.
- “Raw egg nationalism” and the practice of “slonking” raw eggs (claimed benefits and reasons).
- Fukuyama’s thumos framed against modern liberal democracy — masculinity, spirit, and recognition.
- The “suicidal penguin” viral footage (Werner Herzog narration): cultural-symbolic interpretation (Faustian spirit vs. nihilism).
- Obama’s social-media post linking to mutual aid resources — discovery of a group called “My Pitbull is Family.”
- Pitbulls and public-safety debate: cited fatal-attack statistics (dogsBite.org referenced) and policy debates (bans, Florida’s preemption law).
- Anthropological/biological side-points: mouth breathing in childhood affecting jaw development; diet and facial structure.
Guest and book
- Guest: Dr. Charles Cornish Dale — online persona Raw Egg Nationalist.
- Book: The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity (Skyhorse). Focuses on testosterone decline, political effects, and prescriptions for personal and public health.
- Media references: Dr. Cornish Dale appeared in Tucker Carlson’s 2022 documentary The End of Men.
Main takeaways
- Thesis: Male testosterone has been declining (guest cites ~1% per year figures). Over decades this could significantly alter male behavior, ambition, and political preferences.
- Multi-causal problem: Individual lifestyle changes (sleep, weight training, diet, reduced processed foods) can improve hormonal health, but systemic environmental issues (pesticides, PFAS, plastics) require public policy.
- Raw eggs: promoted by the guest for nutrient preservation and the ability to consume greater quantities; seen as a personal intervention among others (lifting, sleep).
- Thumos / cultural argument: Liberal democratic norms of equal recognition may undermine certain aspects of masculine spiritedness (ambition, aggression, risk-taking), worsening the effects of biological decline.
- Penguin meme: Herzog footage used as a cultural symbol. Guests read the penguin as embodying a Faustian/Western drive rather than mere nihilism; turned into a humorous internet motif (“embrace the penguin”).
- Pitbulls: hosts present data and anecdotes arguing pitbulls commit a disproportionate share of fatal attacks and suggest stronger local controls; note political controversy when discussing breed-based risk.
- Practical advice: prioritize sleep, exercise (strength training), nutrition, reduce exposure to endocrine disruptors; address pediatric issues like mouth breathing and diet for long-term development.
Notable quotes / soundbites
- “If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.” — Charlie Kirk (opening).
- “We’ve created a creature, a type of man who is not fully a man.” — Dr. Cornish Dale (summarizing The Last Men thesis).
- Werner Herzog clip (on the penguin): “He is headed towards certain death.” (used to frame the penguin meme).
Actionable recommendations (from the episode)
- Personal:
- Sleep more (guest cites studies showing large increases in testosterone with improved sleep).
- Lift weights regularly; build strength.
- Improve diet: reduce processed foods, prioritize whole foods and cholesterol-rich foods (guest’s view), learn basic cooking.
- Reduce exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals when possible (avoid single-use plastics, check household product ingredients).
- Address pediatric issues (allergies/mouth breathing) that can affect development.
- Civic:
- Advocate for environmental and public-health policies to reduce pesticides, PFAS, and other contaminants (guest’s “Make America Health Again” concept).
- Local safety policy: consider local governance options re: dangerous dog breeds and public safety measures.
Episode highlights / quick timeline
- Intro and sponsor mention; hosts introduce Dr. Charles Cornish Dale.
- Discussion of The Last Men: testosterone decline stats, causes, political implications.
- Raw egg nationalism: what “slonking” is, why raw eggs, nutritional claims.
- Fukuyama’s thumos and how liberalism interacts with masculinity.
- Werner Herzog penguin clip: hosts riff on symbolic interpretations and memes.
- Obama post → link to aid pages → discovery of “My Pitbull is Family” volunteer group; extended debate about pitbull danger, history, and bans.
- Practical sign-offs: guest plugs (book, Substack), Turning Point USA/TPAction job links and calls to get involved.
Resources & links mentioned by speakers
- Book: The Last Men: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity — Skyhorse (available in print, Kindle, audiobook).
- Guest handles / pages: Raw Egg Nationalist — Substack (raweggstack.com); Twitter handle referenced as babygravy9.
- Data source referenced for dog attacks: dogsBite.org (cited in discussion).
- Turning Point / careers: tpaction.com/careers; coalitions.com (volunteer events).
- Media clips referenced: Werner Herzog penguin documentary clip (used in episode).
Note: the episode mixes scientific claims, cultural theory, anecdote, and political commentary. Some statistics and cause-effect claims (e.g., precise testosterone decline rates, breed fatality counts) were cited conversationally; listeners should consult primary studies and reputable databases for verification before treating them as definitive.