The Knicks Land a Haymaker, With Doc Rivers. Plus, a Mini-Mailbag, the End of 'Euphoria,' and a Movies Resurgence With Joanna Robinson and Chris Ryan.

Summary of The Knicks Land a Haymaker, With Doc Rivers. Plus, a Mini-Mailbag, the End of 'Euphoria,' and a Movies Resurgence With Joanna Robinson and Chris Ryan.

by The Ringer

2h 5mJune 4, 2026

Overview of The Bill Simmons Podcast

This episode is split between an in-depth NBA Finals/Game 1 breakdown with Doc Rivers, a rapid-fire mailbag on the modern league and trade ideas, and a long pop-culture conversation with Joanna Robinson and Chris Ryan about Euphoria, TV’s current state, and the growing resurgence of movies in the cultural conversation. The central themes are team-building, playoff adjustments, the value of size and selfless role players, and how the media landscape is shifting back toward theatrical movies and weekly appointment TV.

Knicks vs. Spurs/Game 1 Breakdown With Doc Rivers

Doc Rivers and Bill Simmons spent most of the opening segment dissecting how the Knicks pulled out a dramatic win over San Antonio.

What decided the game

  • The Knicks were better in the clutch, especially because they know exactly how they want to play late:
    • give the ball to Jalen Brunson
    • play off his shot creation
    • trust the Knicks’ spacing and execution
  • Doc identified a few decisive sequences:
    • a Brunson offensive rebound that led to a 3
    • Fox missing a potential game-tying shot
    • a Fox foul immediately afterward that flipped momentum
    • a late Wemby turnover
    • Brunson’s final “moon ball” shot to close it out

Knicks’ edge

  • The Knicks looked more organized late and were the more confident team in a single-possession finish.
  • Doc emphasized that New York’s size mattered everywhere:
    • Brunson plays bigger than his size
    • Josh Hart rebounds like a forward/center
    • Karl-Anthony Towns and Mikal Bridges give them length
  • Hart’s rebounding and cutting were major hidden advantages.
  • Towns was praised as arguably the game’s biggest all-around hero:
    • scored smartly against Wemby
    • avoided dumb fouls
    • rebounded well
    • passed effectively
    • looked much more composed than in earlier seasons

Spurs’ issues

  • San Antonio’s guards, especially Fox and Wemby, struggled badly:
    • combined poor shooting
    • too many turnovers
    • not enough late-game certainty outside of their two-man actions
  • Doc said the Spurs’ best late-game action is usually the Fox/Wemby two-man game, but it didn’t produce enough in Game 1.
  • The Spurs had plenty of offensive rebounds, but they couldn’t convert enough shots.
  • Wemby looked sped up and overextended, with too many dribbles and too much time holding the ball.

Coaching and matchups

  • Doc said the Knicks’ coaches were sharp and had multiple smart matchup choices available.
  • He was surprised by some of the initial coverage choices, including how Wemby was defended.
  • He expects Game 2 to feature more adjustments:
    • possibly more Wemby post touches
    • more of the 4-5 set
    • possible changes to how New York matches up on Wemby

Bigger NBA Takeaways

Beyond the game itself, the conversation turned into a broader discussion of how the Knicks and Spurs were built and what that says about the league.

The Knicks’ identity

  • The Knicks have become a selfless, cohesive, “team” team.
  • Their growth through the playoffs has been a real transformation:
    • less stat-chasing
    • more trust
    • more role acceptance
  • Doc compared this to championship teams that “improve each round” and stop worrying about individual stuff.

Team-building matters more than ever

  • The Knicks were held up as a model for smart team construction:
    • Brunson as the engine
    • Towns as the space-creating big
    • Hart, Bridges, and Robinson as role players who know what they are
  • The Spurs, by contrast, are still in the phase where their young pieces may all become something, but they haven’t sorted out roles yet.

CBA/apron era and the death of the “big three”

  • Doc argued the current NBA environment makes the old three-star model much harder to sustain.
  • In the new CBA/apron world:
    • depth matters more
    • GMs matter more
    • role players in the $7M–$15M range matter a lot
  • He suggested the league may now favor:
    • one superstar
    • one secondary star
    • and a strong supporting cast

Title defenses and parity

  • In the mailbag, Bill argued the NBA is in a true parity era:
    • eight champions in eight years
    • no lasting dynasties
  • Doc agreed that collective bargaining and roster restrictions have made it much harder for rich teams to simply outspend everyone.
  • He also emphasized that defending a title still matters as a marker of legitimacy.

Mailbag Highlights

Bill answered several listener questions on the NBA and fake-trade season.

“Vic in a box”

  • One listener suggested the best nickname for Wemby’s box-and-one coverage was “Vic in a box.”
  • Bill loved it and said he’s adopting it.

Chet Holmgren vs. Wemby

  • Several listeners compared Chet’s struggles to infamous playoff flameouts like Ben Simmons.
  • Bill pushed back:
    • Chet is still an elite defensive big
    • he’s not overreacting to one series
    • the bigger issue is that he must improve his quick-release shooting, especially against aggressive coverage

The face of the league

  • Bill reiterated that he doesn’t love the “face of the league” debate.
  • His view:
    • you know it when you see it
    • Wemby has it
    • SGA and Jokic are/ were close, but Wemby has the full mainstream, casual-fan pull

French summer / Wemby narrative

  • Bill and listeners toyed with the idea of a “summer of France”:
    • Spurs title run
    • France success in international soccer
  • He even noted a quirky scheduling coincidence around a potential Finals Game 6 and a France match.

Pop Culture Segment: Euphoria, TV, and Movies

Later, Bill was joined by Joanna Robinson and Chris Ryan for a sprawling discussion about Euphoria and the broader state of entertainment.

Euphoria finale verdict

  • Joanna and Chris both felt the season/finale was uneven:
    • Joanna: more of a C
    • Chris: annoyed by the show’s structure and how much time was spent on shootouts and side plots
  • Bill was more positive on the experience because he was never bored and thought the addiction material worked very well.
  • Everyone agreed the finale had big swings, but the show often felt disjointed.

Main criticism of the season

  • The biggest complaint was that the show spent too much time on:
    • the Nazi shootout
    • the Alamo-related conflict
    • other large action sequences
  • Meanwhile, legacy characters like Jules, Cassie, Maddie, and Nate were underserved.
  • They felt the show had the talent to do something much better, but the final product didn’t fully land.

What happened to the show

  • The group discussed how much of the show’s success depended on having:
    • Zendaya
    • Sydney Sweeney
    • Jacob Elordi
    • Angus Cloud
  • They argued the production was hurt by:
    • long delays
    • creative rethinks
    • lost cast members
    • scheduling problems that kept major actors from sharing scenes

HBO, binge culture, and the state of TV

  • The conversation broadened into a discussion of binge drops vs. weekly releases.
  • They argued weekly TV is better for:
    • audience engagement
    • watercooler conversation
    • theory-building
    • podcasting and criticism
  • Binge releases, by contrast, often make people watch less carefully and forget more quickly.
  • They praised shows that are still being released weekly and generate conversation.

Movies are back

  • A major theme was that movies appear to be having a resurgence:
    • original theatrical movies feel more exciting again
    • people are more willing to go to theaters
    • the communal experience matters
  • They argued TV became too repetitive and formulaic, especially with:
    • murder mysteries
    • backward-timeline structures
    • “three actors and a murder” Apple/streaming formulas
  • Movies are now feeling fresher and more inventive than many prestige series.

The future of TV and movies

  • They think the next cycle may favor:
    • more original movies
    • fewer bloated, stretched-out limited series
    • more selective weekly shows that feel event-based
  • TV still has room for lightning-in-a-bottle hits like The Pitt and Industry, but they need to feel distinct and communal.

Closing Notes

Bill ended by previewing upcoming podcast content and Rewatchables programming, including:

  • a Rewatchables mailbag
  • the start of “From Hell Month”
  • upcoming episodes on Single White Female, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, and The Good Son

The episode overall was a mix of NBA playoff chess, roster-building philosophy, and a broader argument that the entertainment industry is shifting again: sports teams are valuing cohesion and depth more than ever, TV is struggling with binge fatigue, and movies may be entering a new creative moment.