Belichick’s ‘Legacy,' a Texas NBA Gauntlet, Boston’s 3 Party, Ja’s Big Season, and Week 6 NFL Picks With Kirk Goldsberry, Chris Vernon, and Joe House

Summary of Belichick’s ‘Legacy,' a Texas NBA Gauntlet, Boston’s 3 Party, Ja’s Big Season, and Week 6 NFL Picks With Kirk Goldsberry, Chris Vernon, and Joe House

by The Ringer

2h 8mOctober 10, 2025

Summary — “Belichick’s ‘Legacy,’ a Texas NBA Gauntlet, Boston’s 3 Party, Ja’s Big Season, and Week 6 NFL Picks”

The Ringer — Bill Simmons (hosts), with Kurt Goldsberry, Joe House, and Chris Vernon


Overview

This episode mixes a Bill Simmons rant on Bill Belichick’s legacy with a long NBA conversation with Kurt Goldsberry (focusing on the three big Texas teams, rookies, and league trends) and closes with Joe House and Chris Vernon’s weekly Ringer 107 NFL betting segment (week 6 picks). Key themes: legacy vs. present failure (Belichick), the “Texas Triangle” of Spurs/Mavericks/Rockets and rookie impacts (Wembanyama, Cooper Flagg, Amen Thompson), structural NBA issues from GM survey, a statistical shift in rebounding, and several NFL betting recommendations and game-by-game analysis.


Key points & main takeaways

Bill Simmons on Bill Belichick

  • Simmons defends Belichick’s Patriots era and argues current college struggles (North Carolina) won’t meaningfully change his legacy: “Nothing that happens to him at North Carolina… is going to change everything he did when he was at the Patriots.”
  • Legacy is often distilled to peak accomplishments; bad late-career stops are mostly forgotten over time.
  • Reassessing Belichick’s role relative to Brady is unhelpful—both were essential to the Patriots’ dynastic success.

NBA: The Texas Triangle (Kurt Goldsberry)

  • For the first time in ~10 years all three Texas franchises have genuine upside: San Antonio (Victor Wembanyama), Houston (Kevin Durant + culture shift), Dallas (Cooper Flagg + AD).
  • Each team’s key questions:
    • Spurs: Can Wembanyama stay healthy and will the Spurs build the supporting cast? Wemby already has huge GM respect (83% would start a franchise with him).
    • Rockets: Who handles point-guard duties after VanVleet/Jalen Green departures (Reed Sheppard? Amen Thompson?) and will KD stay healthy?
    • Mavericks: Cooper Flagg’s immediate impact defensively; lineup depth and frontcourt length make Dallas more promising than expected.
  • Giannis trade chatter: Texas teams (and NYK) regularly appear on lists of possible destinations because of their young assets.

Roster/Rule observations from GM survey

  • Top rule change desired: roster construction (26%) — complaints target the apron rules and trade limitations (e.g., inability to trade partial salaries).
  • Other high-ranking changes requested: draft schedule (19%) and “game flow” fixes (end-of-game rules, fewer stoppages).

Statistical/strategic trends

  • Major rebounding shift: for the first time in NBA history, more rebounds are coming off missed three-point attempts than missed two-point attempts. Implication: rebounding skillset increasingly favors speed, length, and predicting long-bounce trajectories over raw strength.
  • Player availability is a big troubling trend: rising missed games for stars (injuries, load management) likely related to the physical demands of modern pace-and-space play and heavy workloads.

Celtics prediction / three-point volume (Bill & guests)

  • Bold prediction: Boston will dramatically increase 3-point attempts and pace without Tatum — Simmons suggests the Celtics could average significantly more threes (he predicts 55/game in his dramatic take), creating truly unusual offensive profiles and players (Pritchard, Hauser, Derek White) stepping into major volume roles.
  • Betting angles mentioned: Peyton Pritchard as a dark-horse leader in made threes (FanDuel odds cited).

Rookies & the young class

  • Cooper Flagg: described as an immediate, elite two-way prospect — expected to be impactful on day one, elite defensive versatility.
  • Victor Wembanyama: GM respect and high expectations, but games-played/health are the main variable.
  • Overall rookie class widely anticipated to be much more exciting than last year’s.

NFL picks (Ringer 107; week 6)

Joe House, Chris Vernon, Bill Simmons picks and commentary — the picks the hosts committed to for the week:

  • Chiefs -2.5 vs. Lions (Bill/Joe)
  • Panthers +3 vs. Cowboys (Chris Vernon)
  • Broncos -6.5 vs. Jets (London) (Verno)
  • Falcons +4.5 vs. Bills (Verno picked; debate/discussion)
  • Colts ML vs. Cardinals, with Patriots +1.5 (parlay option) — watched as a +/– parlay attempt

(They also flagged many games to avoid: London caution, Broncos/Jets concerns, Dolphins/Chargers, Titans/Raiders, Packers/Bengals, Ravens/Rams.)


Notable quotes / insights

  • “Nothing that happens to him at North Carolina… is going to change everything he did when he was at the Patriots.” — Bill Simmons on Belichick.
  • “We don't have to reassess Brady's involvement… They needed each other.” — on Brady/Belichick tandem.
  • “For the first time in NBA history, more rebounds are coming from missed three-point shots than missed two-point shots.” — Kurt Goldsberry (big data-driven insight).
  • "Victor Wembanyama received 83% of GM votes for the player you'd sign to start a franchise." — shows elite front-office respect.
  • “Cooper Flagg… one of the most competitive prospects… most additive guys that has come into the league this century.” — Kurt on Flagg.
  • Bill’s dramatic Celtics forecast: “I think the Celtics are going to be absolutely deranged this year on offense… they’re going to average 55 threes a game.”

Topics discussed (at a glance)

  • Bill Belichick’s current college struggles vs. NFL legacy
  • Patriots/Brady/Belichick credit debate
  • Texas NBA teams: Spurs (Wembanyama), Rockets (KD, guard rotation), Mavericks (Cooper Flagg, AD), Spurs roster construction
  • Victor Wembanyama’s expectations, games-played, and betting props
  • Cooper Flagg scouting and immediate impact
  • NBA GM survey results & rule-change requests (apron rules, draft schedule, game flow)
  • New league trends: three-point rebounding takeover; player availability/injury trends
  • Celtics tactical shift toward a very-high 3PT volume offense
  • Rookie class hype (Wemby, Flagg, Amen Thompson, others)
  • Ringer 107 NFL betting picks, analysis, and gambling talk
  • Betting & responsible gambling reminders and ads

Action items / recommendations (for listeners)

  • NBA watchers:
    • Watch the “Texas Triangle” closely: Wemby (SAS), Cooper Flagg (DAL), Rockets’ guard rotation (replacing VanVleet/Green) — each could define franchise trajectories.
    • Monitor Wembanyama’s games-played line (health is the main variable) and Spurs’ moves to surround him.
    • Track Rockets’ point-guard answers (Reed Sheppard, Amen Thompson) and KD’s health; those two questions largely determine Houston’s ceiling.
    • Roster-construction/watchlist: pay attention to trade chatter (Giannis suitors) and GM sentiment regarding aprons — it affects future asset movement.
  • Betting / fantasy:
    • Consider Celtics’ higher-volume 3PT environment in DFS and 3PT prop markets (Pritchard, Hauser, Jalen Brown usage without Tatum).
    • In prop markets, Wemby and Cooper Flagg carry interesting long-term and single-game props—consider games-played limits for Wemby.
    • For NFL bettors: note the hosts’ week 6 card (Chiefs -2.5, Broncos -6.5, Panthers +3, Falcons +4.5, Colts ML/Pats +1.5 parlay) and the caveats around injuries and international-game variance.
  • Industry / macro:
    • If you care about product quality, watch developments around NBA “game flow” rules (end-of-game timing) — this is a fix GMs support and the league could tweak to improve late-game viewing experience.
    • Keep an eye on the schedule/load management conversation: increased missed games among stars suggest an unsustainable workload vs. intensity mismatch.

Final notes

  • The episode blends high-confidence hot takes (Belichick’s legacy permanence; Celtics 3PT surge; Cooper Flagg’s immediate two-way impact) with data-driven league trend observations (rebounds off threes, GM survey results).
  • Betting-oriented listeners should treat the Ringer 107 picks and props as entertainment and gamble responsibly — hosts repeatedly promoted FanDuel and responsible-gambling resources.