Overview of Texas Toast, Fantasy Murderers, Drake Maybe Back, Guess the Lines and MLB Playoffs With Cousin Sal
Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal spent most of the episode reacting to a chaotic Week 4 NFL slate, with a big chunk devoted to the Patriots’ upset of the Bills, the Chargers looking broken, the Vikings somehow starting 4-0, and the AFC/NFC playoff race beginning to take shape. They also crossed off another team in the “cross-off” game, built a rough “fantasy murderers” lineup of players who are tanking fantasy teams, ran through Week 5 lines, and finished with a lengthy baseball playoff rant and a classic Parent Corner update from Sal’s kidney stone saga.
NFL Week 4: Biggest Takeaways
Drake Maye and the Patriots may be back
- New England’s win over Buffalo felt like a turning point.
- Simmons thought Mike Vrabel’s energy on the sideline was a huge part of it.
- The Patriots played aggressive football late, and Drake Maye looked more like his 2024 self.
- The main theory: the issue with Maye was more about confidence/headspace than his shoulder.
The Chargers are in rough shape
- Herbert looked miserable and beat up in the loss to Seattle.
- The line was bad, the sideline looked disconnected, and Harbaugh seemed oddly spaced out.
- Simmons and Sal both thought the team looked “broken,” and Eduardo’s plea helped push them toward crossing off the Chargers.
Vikings, 4-0, but still deeply suspicious
- They keep winning, but the offense looks awful.
- Simmons called them potentially the worst 4-0 team he’s seen.
- They both think Minnesota could be a classic team to bet against in the playoffs.
The Texans are 0-4 despite talent
- Houston keeps finding ways to lose close games.
- C.J. Stroud played well, but the defense and game management continue to be an issue.
- Simmons compared the late-game collapse to a bullpen reliever blowing a great start.
Cowboys offense looks elite
- Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb were dominant in the win over Houston.
- Lamb’s big game reinforced the idea that Dallas may have the best offense in the league right now.
- The concern remains the defense and sloppy coaching decisions.
Eagles got exposed by the Rams
- The Eagles’ offense was nearly nonexistent for long stretches.
- Hurts had a brutal passing day, and the team still hasn’t looked convincing.
- Simmons was amused by how often the Eagles seem to get every break and still end up struggling.
Chiefs, Jags, and Niners all look dangerous
- Kansas City survived the Raiders, but it wasn’t a “juggernaut” performance.
- Jacksonville impressed Simmons a lot; he thinks they may be the most trustworthy AFC team right now.
- San Francisco is 4-0 despite constant injuries, and both hosts continue to treat them as one of the best teams in the NFC.
The AFC hierarchy is still unsettled
- The Chiefs are still the safest bet, but not overwhelming.
- The Bills are not running away with anything.
- The Jaguars are starting to look like a legitimate contender.
- Denver, Pittsburgh, and New England were all discussed as teams in the mix, but not dominant.
Cross-Off Game Update
The third cross-off team
- They debated Arizona for a while, but ultimately settled on the Chargers as the next team to cross off.
- That puts them alongside the Titans and the Dolphins.
- Simmons kept saying the Chargers don’t just look bad — they look structurally broken.
Teams they still hesitate to cross off
- The Cardinals came up as a possible candidate because their path to the playoffs looks shaky.
- But because they’re still in a crowded NFC race, they were left alive for now.
Fantasy Murderers All-Stars
They joked about players who are killing fantasy teams through injury, inconsistency, or empty production. The rough list included:
- QB: Justin Herbert
- RB: Saquon Barkley
- WRs: Emeka Egbuka, Justin Jefferson, Marvin Harrison Jr.
- TE: Colston Loveland
- Defense: Texans D
Main theme: a lot of big-name players are underperforming or getting hurt at exactly the wrong time.
Guess the Lines and Week 5 Look-Ahead
Notable Week 5 games they discussed
- Patriots-Raiders: Simmons liked New England’s momentum, but Sal warned about Las Vegas’ pass rush and Brock Bowers.
- Bears-Packers: Both liked Chicago’s coaching edge and think Caleb Williams changes the matchup.
- Lions-Cardinals: They leaned Arizona as live, especially if Detroit’s defense keeps giving up easy yards.
- Vikings-Saints: They expect Minnesota to be favored, but neither trusts the Vikings offense.
- Broncos-Chargers: Both thought this could get ugly for L.A., especially with Denver fans traveling well.
- Texans-Titans: A messy, not-trustworthy game despite Houston needing a win badly.
- Bengals-Dolphins: They both expected a Burrow-style stat game, but neither fully trusts Cincinnati.
- Jaguars-Eagles: They liked Jacksonville at home and thought Philly’s offensive issues make the Jags dangerous.
- Ravens-Falcons: Atlanta’s chance to prove it isn’t fake, but both were skeptical.
- Rams-49ers: One of the marquee games; both still view the Rams as one of the best bets in the NFC.
Best betting/preview angle
- The hosts repeatedly returned to the idea that the NFC is crowded but the NFC West may be the best division top to bottom.
- They think injuries could be the biggest factor in deciding who actually stays alive.
MLB Playoffs: Too Many Pitchers, Too Little Fun
Their big baseball complaint
- Simmons and Sal both think postseason baseball has become overmanaged.
- They hate the constant bullpen shuffling and the way starters are pulled too early.
- Their point: playoff baseball used to be about ace starters taking over games; now it’s a stream of relievers and “matchup” moves.
The guardrail/home run discussion
- They ripped the strange roof/guardrail situation that affected a Brewers/Rays-style play.
- Simmons argued there should be better tech to determine whether a ball would have been a home run anyway.
- The overall tone: playoff baseball is still compelling, but the execution is getting weird.
World Series thought
- Simmons floated Brewers over Rays as a fun value-style prediction.
- He likes Milwaukee’s overall balance and Tampa’s ability to win tight games.
Parent Corner / Personal Updates
Sal’s kidney stone update
- Sal said the stone is being treated with a machine that blasts it through the abdomen first.
- If that doesn’t work, they’ll go in a more direct route later.
- He admitted he’s heavily medicated and basically operating at full chaos mode.
Brooklyn trip highlights
- He spent time with family around cousin Jimmy’s Brooklyn shows.
- He met Mets owner Steve Cohen, then had to abruptly exit because the pain hit.
- Babydoll showed up in a major way, including a legendary old video appearance from the 1989 William Morris Christmas party.
- Sal also mentioned a bunch of pizza boxes, loud family energy, and a generally surreal few days.
Food quirks at home
- His daughter pre-plans restaurant orders by checking menus in advance.
- They also discussed her love of pickles, which led to a side conversation about pregnancy cravings and whether those preferences get passed down to kids.
Final Notes
- Simmons and Sal were especially high on Drake Maye’s rebound and the Patriots’ overall energy.
- They think the Chargers are the clearest cross-off candidate right now.
- The episode’s big football theme: the league feels wide open, but a few teams already look a step ahead — especially the Jaguars, Rams, 49ers, and Chiefs.
