Overview of Full Show PT 2: Tuesday, January 20 [Vault]
This segment from The Bert (Burt) Show (Pionaire Podcasting) includes two main conversational threads: a listener call-in from "Alyssa" about dating two men who later came out as gay, and a stunt/report from Phil Turan confronting people who don't wash their hands in public restrooms. The rest of the show mixes caller reactions, host analysis, statistics, and lighter bits about dating superstitions and pre-date rituals.
Key segments
- Alyssa caller: a 21-year-old who dated two serious partners (ages 14–17 and 18–20) who later admitted they were gay. Hosts and callers discuss causes, feelings of betrayal, and how to avoid similar situations.
- Phil Turan’s restroom sting: he publicly calls out patrons and an employee at fast-food restaurants for not washing their hands, leading to a confrontational exchange and manager intervention.
- Dating superstitions / pre-date rituals: callers and hosts trade anecdotes about routines people use to calm nerves or feel lucky before dates (songs, outfits, push-ups, candles, red wine rituals, etc.).
- Listener anecdotes: other callers describe similar experiences (e.g., women married to men who later came out; a caller who dated multiple closeted men in high school).
Main takeaways and advice
- On Alyssa’s situation
- Hosts and callers largely frame it as an unfortunate (but not uncommon) occurrence—especially in teenage/young-adult relationships when people are still figuring out sexual identity.
- Advice given:
- Don’t assume this will be a recurring pattern—people generally become more self-aware and honest with age.
- Be aware of relationship dynamics: strong “best friend” vibes or extreme comfort early on can sometimes let closeted people hide.
- There’s no single outward “tell”; flamboyance may be obvious for some, but others present as very stereotypically masculine (a “beard” or cover).
- Empathy: callers stress it’s not Alyssa’s fault; closeted partners often struggle with their identity and may genuinely have tried to make the relationship work.
- On public hand hygiene
- Public confrontation can embarrass people but also exposes how common poor hand hygiene is.
- Phil’s interactions highlight resistance and denial; management pushed Phil out when he confronted an employee.
- Some callers pointed to studies suggesting hand-dryers can re-aerosolize contaminants and that paper towels may be preferable.
Notable statistics and facts shared
- Turner Field observation (Atlanta): 26% of observed patrons didn’t wash hands after restroom use.
- Women: 16% didn’t wash
- Men: 37% didn’t wash
- National survey highlights:
- ~90% of women wash hands in public restrooms (implied)
- 83% wash hands after using bathroom at home
- 73% wash after changing a dirty diaper
- 42% wash after petting a dog/cat
- 32% wash after coughing or sneezing into hands
- Academic claim (caller): some hand-dryers may spread fecal bacteria/particles; paper towels can be safer (caller referenced grad-level coverage of handwashing).
Memorable quotes / lines
- Caller description: “subtle flamboyance” — a recurring phrase describing perceived early signs in her first boyfriend.
- Host reassurance: “It’s not your fault.” (used by callers/hosts in response to Alyssa’s distress)
- Phil, confronting a patron: “I noticed you did not wash your hands as you exited the bathroom.”
- Manager reaction to Phil: told him to leave the restaurant after the public call-out.
Topics discussed (summary)
- Dating and closeted partners: personal experiences, emotional fallout, motives (cover, confusion, identity exploration), and social dynamics in adolescence.
- How to move forward after betrayal: emotional healing, dating strategy changes (hosts suggest changes in what she seeks), and reassurance that this is unlikely to be a permanent pattern.
- Public hygiene culture and interventions: observational findings, the ethics/effectiveness of public shaming, and business/employee hygiene responsibilities.
- Superstitions and rituals around dating: personal routines to reduce anxiety or “bring luck” (music, clothes, workouts, candles/baths, red wine then brush teeth, playing with pets).
Actionable advice and practical notes
- For listeners who’ve been in similar relationships:
- Allow time to process and avoid generalizing the experience to all future partners.
- Look for emotional transparency and long-term honesty in new partners (especially as people get older and more secure in identity).
- For public hygiene:
- Wash hands thoroughly with soap and water after restroom use—paper towels may be a safer drying option if concerned about air dryers.
- Employers should enforce “employees must wash hands” policies; patrons can gently remind staff or management if hygiene lapses are observed.
Quick highlights / soundbites to sample (if you want to skip the episode)
- Alyssa’s call describing two relationships where partners later came out as gay — central emotional arc.
- Phil Turan’s bullhorn confrontation at a fast-food restaurant — public shaming and manager escalation.
- Radio callers’ personal anecdotes: marriage ended by a spouse coming out; four high-school boyfriends who were closeted; various pre-date rituals shared by listeners.
This summary captures the episode’s primary conversations (dating and identity struggles, public hygiene antics, and lighter dating superstitions) and the practical points that listeners might take away without listening to the full show.
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