Episode Summary — "Kirsten Dunst" (SmartLess with Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett)

Overview

This SmartLess episode features actress Kirsten Dunst in a wide-ranging conversation with hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett. The discussion covers her career from child actor to current roles, recent and upcoming films (notably Roof Man and The Entertainment System Is Down), her approach to acting (including a technique she calls “dream work”), family and parenting, auditioning in the modern era (self-tapes), and the practical realities of balancing work and home life. The episode is interspersed with sponsor messages.

Key Points & Main Takeaways

• Career arc and perspective:

  • Kirsten started young (first major recognition around age 12) and recalls early fame as both rewarding and awkward — she emphasizes the value of the process of making a film over awards and outcomes.
  • She’s worked across genres and values diverse, character-driven projects (references include Interview with the Vampire, Jumanji, Spider-Man, Melancholia, Bring It On, Civil War).

• Recent and upcoming projects:

  • Roof Man (discussed enthusiastically; directed by Derek Cianfrance, co-starring Channing Tatum) — described as warm and accessible despite its true-crime basis; release mentioned as October 10.
  • The Entertainment System Is Down (Ruben Östlund) — an “airplane” story about human interactions when in-flight entertainment/Wi‑Fi fails; filmed with her husband Jesse Plemons and child-related production stories (e.g., family in Budapest).

• Auditioning and modern process:

  • After many years without auditions, Kirsten returned to auditioning via self-tape for Östlund’s film — she performed an improv self-tape alone on an iPhone.
  • Notes the self-tape world is different and can be less stressful (can redo takes), but can also be a lonely process.

• Acting process and preparation:

  • Kirsten uses “dream work”: before sleep she writes specific questions for herself about a character, records dreams, and brings dream material to an acting coach to integrate into character development. She also “signs out” a character when done.
  • She believes characters should have secrets and that drawing from subconscious material can be valuable.

• Family and lifestyle:

  • Married to actor Jesse Plemons; they have two sons (around ages 4 and 7). They navigate typical parenting challenges (solo parenting, school drop-off radius, balancing travel).
  • Prefers nesting and staying local (Toluca Lake, neighborhood life) when not working.
  • Shared anecdotes about parenting mishaps (son’s appendicitis while in Budapest), kids and movies, and family routines.

• Views on the film landscape:

  • Expresses desire to do a big, fun comedy and to direct in that space.
  • Observes that audience appetite for types of films shifts with cultural mood — when times are dark people may not gravitate to light escapist fare, though she hopes studio comedies return.

Notable Quotes / Insights

• “All you have is the experience of making it.” — on what truly matters beyond awards.
• “My characters have a secret.” — simple acting principle she follows.
• “I do dream work.” — explanation: write a nightly question about a character, record dreams, and integrate dream material into the role.
• On auditioning as an adult via self-tape: described an improv test on a plane where she discovers her partner is cheating via phone memory — done alone on an iPhone.
• On parents and work-life: candid reflections on the toll and logistics of alternating parenting and jobs, and why she “stays in the radius” of school drop-off.

Topics Discussed

• Childhood fame and early nominations (Golden Globe nomination at age 12)
• Memorable roles: Interview with the Vampire, Jumanji, Spider-Man, Bring It On, Melancholia
• Recent films: Roof Man (Derek Cianfrance, Channing Tatum), The Entertainment System Is Down (Ruben Östlund)
• Auditioning: self-tapes, improv auditions, differences from childhood auditions
• Acting technique: dream work, character secrets, incorporating subconscious material
• Theater and live performance: SNL and stage experiences; workload differences between stage and film
• Family life: parenting two young boys, balancing travel and work, homeschooling considerations
• Food and local life anecdotes (favorite junk food: In‑N‑Out with extra spread and no onions; local restaurants)
• Industry trends and the appetite for comedy/escapism vs. darker films

Action Items / Recommendations

• For listeners interested in Kirsten Dunst’s current work:
  • Watch Roof Man (release referenced as October 10).
  • Look out for The Entertainment System Is Down (upcoming Ruben Östlund film).
• For actors/creatives:
  • Consider “dream work” (write targeted questions about a character before sleep, record and analyze dreams) as a tool for deeper character development.
  • Embrace modern audition formats (self-tape/improv) — practice improvisation on camera and get comfortable performing alone for self-tapes.
• For parents/working creatives:
  • Take note of practical routines (scheduling, localizing life when possible, sharing parenting duties) and that managing both career and family often involves trade-offs and creative solutions.
• For listeners curious about the film industry:
  • Pay attention to how cultural mood influences which genres studios and audiences favor; expect cyclical returns to different forms (e.g., studio comedies).

Episode Extras

• The episode includes multiple sponsor segments (Whole Foods, AutoTrader, ZipRecruiter, BlueAir, Skinny Pop, Square, GoodRx, AMC, L.L. Bean, etc.) woven between conversation segments.
• Tone: warm, conversational, anecdotal — the hosts and guest share a lot of personal stories, humor, and rapid-fire banter.

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