Overview of the SmartLess episode with Sharon Horgan
Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome writer, producer, and actor Sharon Horgan for a wide-ranging, very funny conversation about her career, her creative process, and her new HBO series Youth. The episode blends the usual SmartLess chaos with genuine admiration for Horgan’s work, touching on her acclaimed shows like Pulling, Catastrophe, and Bad Sisters, plus her film work in Game Night and her time on The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret.
The episode also opens with a heartfelt tribute to Jim Burrows, who had recently passed away, and a reminder about the hosts’ upcoming live show at the Hollywood Bowl.
Main Topics Discussed
Sharon Horgan’s creative engine
- Horgan says she still loves creating new projects, even though it’s hard to let go of a successful one.
- She explains that starting something new feels exciting because it lets her:
- build new characters from scratch
- choose a fresh tone and soundtrack
- escape the “pattern” of an existing show
- She admits it’s always scary because every new project can feel like it might be the last good idea.
The UK vs. US TV model
- The hosts and Horgan compare British and American television production.
- Horgan describes the UK system as historically allowing:
- shorter series runs
- quicker production schedules
- more freedom and less financial risk
- This made room for experimentation, even on low-budget projects where “craft service” was barely a thing.
- She notes that the industry has shifted somewhat with global streamers and international distribution.
Writing, rooms, and collaboration
- Horgan says her favorite part of the job is the writing itself, especially:
- being in a room with funny people
- discovering jokes that surprise everyone
- building something better in the edit
- She also says she now values writers’ rooms more than she used to, even when some people are only there as idea-generators or consultants.
- The hosts praise how much work it takes to write, revise, and sustain a show.
Control, casting, and actor line readings
- A big topic is how a writer/creator handles actors performing lines differently than imagined.
- Horgan admits she used to be overly prescriptive about how lines should be delivered.
- She says she’s learned that actors need room to interpret the material and that there isn’t only one correct way to do a scene.
- They joke about:
- forcing line readings
- ADR
- AI eventually being able to alter performances entirely
- Horgan shares a real example of an extra being “shut” into silence in post-production because he was unintentionally mouthing during a scene.
Anxiety, auditions, and sleep
- Horgan opens up about how hard auditions used to be for her.
- She says she would often panic, sweat, and lose her lines entirely.
- She describes developing survival tricks like:
- controlled breathing
- eating a banana before auditions
- later, using beta blockers
- The conversation shifts to sleep problems:
- Horgan says she’s been waking around 4:15 a.m.
- she suspects hormones and work-related stress
- she drinks a lot of coffee because of writer’s rooms and deadlines
- The hosts offer their usual unhelpful but enthusiastic sleep advice.
Her background and path into comedy
- Horgan reflects on growing up in a big family and learning to get attention by making her parents laugh.
- She didn’t start making a living from comedy until her early 30s.
- Before that, she worked for years as an administrative officer in the employment service.
- She studied art, tried and failed to get into drama school multiple times, and later pursued an English degree, which eventually led her toward writing.
- She describes herself as someone who wasn’t naturally fearless about career change, but who eventually kept moving forward anyway.
Notable Anecdotes and Bits
Jim Burrows tribute
- The hosts speak warmly about Jim Burrows as:
- a mentor
- a father figure
- one of the great comedy directors
- They mention his work on Cheers, Frasier, Friends, Will & Grace, Taxi, Mary Tyler Moore, The Big Bang Theory, and more.
The “Where’s the fan?” game
- The episode features one of the show’s recurring absurd bits: “Where’s the fan?”
- Sean walks Sharon through how the joke works, and everyone riffs on it.
The “cock lollies” story
- Horgan recalls a line from Pulling involving a bizarre pitch about “cock lollies.”
- The hosts love the deadpan delivery and the way a simple line can become funnier through repetition and performance.
Game Night praise
- All three hosts gush about Game Night, calling it underappreciated and genuinely excellent.
- Horgan notes she was writing Motherland during that shoot, joking about eating lobster in craft services while her co-writer was elsewhere in London.
Sharon Horgan’s New Project: Youth
What it is
- Horgan introduces Youth, a new HBO series set to premiere September 20.
- She describes it as:
- eight half-hour episodes
- in the vein of Pulling and Catastrophe
- centered on a woman in her 50s dealing with family, aging parents, and a child heading to college
Themes
- The show explores the “sandwich generation” experience:
- caring for children while also dealing with aging parents
- wanting life to be about yourself again, but getting pulled in every direction
- Horgan says she’s glad she’s making it now because she has more to say about this phase of life than she would have years ago.
Production
- She says they shot Youth in multiple locations, including the UK, Germany, and Spain.
- She jokes that getting to shoot in a warmer place is part of the fantasy of making TV.
Takeaways
- Sharon Horgan remains one of the sharpest comedic writers and performers working today.
- Her creative process is driven by:
- starting over
- writing with funny collaborators
- trusting the edit
- learning when to let actors breathe
- The conversation highlights how much of her work is rooted in lived experience, particularly:
- career anxiety
- family life
- middle age
- the practical realities of making TV
- Her new HBO series Youth looks like a smart, personal continuation of the themes she’s explored in Catastrophe and Bad Sisters.
Mentioned Projects
- Pulling
- Catastrophe
- Bad Sisters
- Game Night
- The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret
- Motherland
- Youth (HBO)
