Overview of Practical Founders Podcast Episode #193
In this episode of the Practical Founders Podcast, Greg Head interviews Perry Rosenbloom, co-founder and CEO of LaunchBay, about the often-overlooked “real bottom of the funnel”: customer onboarding and implementation. Perry explains how SaaS and professional services companies can replace duct-taped onboarding processes—spreadsheets, Slack threads, and endless follow-ups—with a structured client workspace that improves visibility, accountability, and time-to-value. The discussion covers onboarding best practices, where onboarding fits in the customer journey, why charging for implementation matters, and how AI may enhance—but not fully replace—human coordination.
What LaunchBay Does
LaunchBay is an onboarding and client collaboration platform built for B2B software companies and professional services teams that need to manage complex post-sale implementations.
Core capabilities
- Branded client portals for onboarding
- Shared task/workflow management for internal teams and clients
- File collection, approvals, signatures, and payment handling
- Automated follow-ups and milestone notifications
- Native integrations with HubSpot and Slack
- Zapier connectivity for broader workflow automation
The problem it solves
Perry argues that after a deal closes, customers still need to understand:
- What they bought
- When they’ll get it
- What they need to do next
LaunchBay centralizes that process so onboarding becomes clearer, faster, and more consistent.
Key Themes and Takeaways
Onboarding debt is real
Perry emphasizes that early-stage companies often rely on tribal knowledge and manual coordination. That can work briefly, but it creates “onboarding debt” that compounds as the company grows.
Onboarding is part of the real bottom of the funnel
Greg and Perry frame onboarding as just as important as lead generation and sales conversion. Closing the deal is not the finish line—getting the customer to activation and value is.
Visibility is a major onboarding failure point
Many teams don’t actually know:
- Where each customer is in the process
- Which tasks are blocked
- Whether a customer is frustrated or disengaged
LaunchBay is designed to make that visible.
Not all customers should follow the same workflow
A recurring point in the discussion is that onboarding should be segmented by:
- Product tier
- Customer size
- Use case
- Complexity of implementation
One-size-fits-all onboarding often leads to overload and missed milestones.
Best Practices for SaaS Onboarding
1. Start with a formal kickoff
A structured kickoff helps align sales, customer success, and the customer on:
- Goals
- Timelines
- Milestones
- Responsibilities
2. Define activation clearly
Companies should decide what “live,” “activated,” or “launched” actually means in their business. That metric should be tied to customer value, not just task completion.
3. Don’t dump everything on the customer at once
Perry warns against overwhelming customers with huge checklists or long documents up front. Instead, onboarding should be staged and paced.
4. Use implementation data to identify problems
If churn happens early, it often points to:
- Sales mismatch
- Poor onboarding
- Unclear expectations
If churn happens later after real usage, it may signal a product or ICP issue.
Why Charging for Implementation Matters
Perry strongly recommends charging for onboarding when it involves real work.
Benefits of charging
- Increases completion rates
- Creates accountability
- Filters out low-intent customers
- Sets the expectation that onboarding is valuable work
At LaunchBay, implementation fees typically range from $2,000 to $5,000 depending on complexity.
Greg reinforces this with his own experience: free onboarding often leads to customers not showing up, while paid onboarding improves commitment and outcomes.
AI in Onboarding: Helpful, But Not a Replacement
The conversation includes a realistic take on AI.
What AI can do well
- Build forms and task templates
- Analyze sentiment in customer communication
- Surface bottlenecks and churn risk
- Automate smarter follow-up messages
- Help staff scale their coordination efforts
What AI cannot fully replace yet
- Human orchestration
- Strategic decision-making
- Complex multi-party coordination
- Judgment around customer readiness and success
Perry sees the CSM role evolving from administrative coordinator to more strategic operator focused on retention, expansion, and outcomes.
LaunchBay’s Business Snapshot
Perry shared a few high-level details about the company:
- Raised a “Colorado seed” round about 18 months ago
- Now well over $1M in revenue
- Grew by a little over 2x last year
- Team includes two engineers
- Serves both:
- Sales-led software teams
- Product-led professional services teams
He also noted that LaunchBay’s sweet spot is currently smaller and mid-sized organizations, especially teams where onboarding is operationally complex.
Practical Founder Lessons from Perry Rosenbloom
Focus on a real pain point, not a generic category
LaunchBay started broader, but over time the team realized the true problem was onboarding—not just client portals or project management.
Specialization wins
General tools like Monday or Asana are great for internal work, but not ideal for client implementation and onboarding orchestration.
Scale requires systems, not heroics
Founder-led onboarding can work for a while, but it doesn’t scale. Eventually, process needs to live in a system instead of in someone’s head.
Growth requires learning from cohorts
Perry looks at usage patterns and secondary feature adoption to understand which customers are truly sticky and which are likely to churn.
Notable Insights
- “Onboarding debt is real.”
- “The real bottom of the funnel is when the customer is activated.”
- “If you’re giving onboarding away for free, you’re telling customers it has no value.”
- “AI will help with onboarding, but human orchestration will still matter.”
Bottom Line
This episode is a practical, no-fluff look at why SaaS onboarding is often underdeveloped and how better systems can improve customer experience, time-to-value, and retention. Perry Rosenbloom makes the case that onboarding is not a side process—it’s a critical part of the revenue engine, and one that deserves the same rigor as sales and marketing.
