Overview of Not Skinny But Not Fat with Amanda Hirsch: Paige Paul (formerly Paige Lorenze)
In this episode, Amanda Hirsch sits down with creator, entrepreneur, and newly married Paige Paul to talk about her evolution online and offline: from her early, more unfiltered internet presence to her current more polished brand, her marriage to tennis player Tommy Paul, the decision to change her last name, and the realities of being a public figure in the age of internet scrutiny. The conversation also touches on Paige’s business growth, her childhood connection to Nantucket, and how she balances being “the polished girl” with still being silly, self-deprecating, and real.
Main Topics Discussed
Paige’s public evolution
- Paige reflects on how much her online presence has changed over time.
- Early Paige was more openly messy, candid, and face-to-camera; current Paige is more curated and brand-focused.
- She explains that this shift happened gradually as she got older and became more aware of how the internet interprets women and creators.
- She says she still has the same playful, country, “silly” side—she just doesn’t always show it publicly.
Internet culture, hate, and parasocial behavior
- Paige and Amanda discuss how social media has become more aggressive, less nuanced, and more conducive to bullying.
- Paige talks about how the internet often flattens people into one-dimensional versions of themselves.
- She expresses concern about parasocial relationships and how online discourse—especially on TikTok—can turn into harassment, stalking, and cyberbullying.
- She notes that while criticism is part of the job, things can become dangerous when people cross into personal territory.
The Hillstone restaurant controversy
- Amanda brings up her viral complaint about Hillstone/South Beverly Grill, where she felt her family was treated rudely while dining with young children.
- Paige discusses her own experience with restaurant snobbery and how frustrating it is when a place is good but the attitude is off.
- Amanda notes that Hillstone’s website actually says it’s not ideal for large groups or young children, and that it prefers intimate parties of two.
- The segment becomes a broader conversation about family-friendliness, exclusivity, and public behavior in restaurants.
Brand building and Dairy Boy
- Paige talks about building her brand in a way that started out as a joke/inside reference and grew into a real business.
- She explains how Dairy Boy began with a very specific point of view and community humor, then evolved into a full brand.
- Amanda highlights how impressive Paige is at branding, visual curation, and creating a strong identity.
- Paige says she’s proud that her career as a creator and business owner has remained consistent, even through periods of personal change.
Marriage, name change, and identity
- Paige shares that she officially changed her name to Paige Paul and never seriously considered keeping Lorenze professionally.
- She says it felt meaningful and natural to take her husband’s last name.
- Amanda and Paige discuss how last-name changes can feel different for women, especially when children are involved.
- Paige jokes about her Italian last name being replaced by “Paul,” and enjoys the simplicity of the new name—especially for their future kids.
Wedding details and the “wifey” era
- Paige’s wedding is discussed as a major milestone, including the fact that it was featured in Vogue.
- She describes the wedding as elegant, timeless, and very intentional.
- There were Honey Deuces, a Burberry suit for Tommy, and a polished aesthetic overall.
- She and Amanda also discuss the “WAG” label and how Paige sees it less as an insult and more as a descriptor tied to women supporting their partners.
- Paige pushes back on the idea that these labels are inherently negative, especially compared to how society treats men in similar roles.
The tennis world and supporting Tommy Paul
- Paige explains that she genuinely loves tennis and was drawn to it because she grew up as an athlete herself.
- She was a ski racer and relates to the structure and individuality of tennis.
- She describes her role as supportive but not emotionally overinvested in Tommy’s matches, saying she tries to be a calming presence rather than ride every win and loss as her own.
- She says she chooses which tournaments to attend based on her schedule and where Tommy needs support most.
Childhood, family, and future kids
- Paige reveals that she wants a big family—possibly five or six children.
- She and Amanda discuss how three siblings can sometimes feel awkward because someone always gets left out.
- Paige says Tommy wants kids too, and that she feels ready for motherhood in a practical sense because her life and business are already structured enough to support it.
- She and Amanda joke about doing future check-ins after the “first pregnancy” and “terrible twos.”
Nantucket, family history, and the store
- A major emotional highlight is Paige’s Nantucket store, which she describes as a dream come true.
- She grew up spending summers in Nantucket and her family once had a home there, but lost it.
- Opening a store there feels personal and symbolic—like reclaiming a piece of her family history.
- She says the store is one of her proudest achievements and has become a grounding, tangible success.
The “No influencers” sign drama
- Amanda and Paige revisit the viral “No influencers” sign on Nantucket.
- Paige says she saw it in person, laughed at it at first, and later commented because of how mean-spirited the discussion around it became.
- She felt the conversation mattered because it exposed how people view the creator economy and women working online.
- She says she was okay being the one to speak up because the issue was personal and tied to a place she loves.
Key Takeaways
- Paige is more than her online aesthetic: She wants people to understand that her polished Instagram is only one part of who she is.
- She’s highly self-aware: Paige recognizes the limits and risks of sharing online in today’s internet culture.
- Her career is intentional: She sees content creation, brand-building, and business ownership as serious work.
- She values support, not performance: In both her marriage and career, she emphasizes bringing value rather than just image.
- She’s proud of where she comes from: Nantucket, family history, and her upbringing all remain central to her identity.
Notable Moments
- Paige admitting she’ll happily ask for a White Claw at noon and still be the polished “it girl.”
- The conversation about being “a lot of different things” at once—curated online, but silly and warm in real life.
- Amanda and Paige joking about “hags” as the male counterpart to WAGs.
- Paige saying her Nantucket store is the accomplishment that makes criticism feel smaller.
- The playful but candid discussion about future babies, big families, and what life could look like next.
Overall Impression
This episode presents Paige Paul as a woman who has deliberately evolved her public image without losing her personality. She comes across as thoughtful, funny, and very aware of the pressures of online life. The interview balances celebrity gossip, business talk, internet culture, and personal reflection, making it both entertaining and revealing.