Overview of Not Skinny But Not Fat — Episode: Salley Carson: Creature of Chaos
Amanda Hirsch hosts Sally (credited here as “Salley”) Carson from Southern Charm in a candid, wide-ranging conversation about Bravo drama, friendships and betrayals on the show, past relationships (including a broken engagement and stints on The Bachelor franchise), her day job in spine robotics, mental health, postpartum/health routines, fame, and handling online hate. The episode mixes behind-the-scenes Bravo tea with personal history and practical reflections on work, wellness, and boundaries.
Main topics covered
- Amanda’s brief opening on postpartum weight, dieting, and working with a nutritionist (low-carb/protein/fiber focus).
- Sally’s current Bravo drama: texts and conflict with Whitner, surprise at cast secrecy, and feeling betrayed by friends (notably around Craig & Charlie).
- Season highlights: chickens, hot tub scenes, and the “creature of chaos” label.
- Past relationships: broken engagement (cheated on), leaving The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, tattoos and impulsive choices tied to relationships.
- Career: Sally’s non-TV job operating spine robotics and why she values it.
- Fame, online scrutiny, and how social media affects mental health and job security.
- Family and life goals: freezing eggs, strong desire to have children, and thinking about solo parenting if needed.
- Self-care plans: detox/retreat before next season to limit phone use and reset.
Key moments & notable quotes
- On the Bravo drama dynamic: “Creature of chaos” — a label Sally accepts and leans into as part of her on-screen brand.
- On her career vs reality TV: “I would quit this life in a heartbeat to just do what I do” — about choosing her medical/robotics work over TV if necessary.
- On dealing with hateful DMs: she fired back at an online critic and blocked them — illustrating the intensity of fan reactions.
- On the broken engagement: she learned of cheating 28 days before her wedding; the discovery led to emotional collapse and long-term effects.
- On friendships and betrayal: shocked to learn about Charlie and Craig’s secret closeness and hurt by not being told “because we talk every day.”
- Humorous/viral line from a fan exchange (explicit and confrontational) highlights how heated interactions with strangers can get.
Cast dynamics & Bravo drama (concise)
- Whitner: recently antagonistic toward Sally after a comment; Sally believes he’s “got it out for” her.
- Craig & Charlie: Sally was surprised to learn they were getting close off-camera; she feels betrayed because she considered Charlie a close friend and she’d helped introduce them.
- Austin: close friend and potential romantic interest; they have a strong friendship, some “messing around,” but both appear cautious about a serious relationship.
- Vanita & Molly: tension over perceived interference, “curfew” text (Vanita told Sally not to hang with Craig past midnight), and a rumor involving Molly that took on a life of its own.
- General vibe: friendships on Bravo are messy, very real, and frequently shift between loyalty and competition.
Personal & career background
- Career: trained in medical sales/robotics after college; now works with a spine-guidance robot in the OR several days a week — a grounding, meaningful job she takes pride in.
- Reality TV path: multiple shows “landed” on her (Southern Hospitality, Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise, Southern Charm); she says many opportunities came through others signing her up or producers approaching her.
- Relationship history: quick engagement ended by infidelity; multiple attempts at reality dating shows followed; lessons learned about trust and resilience.
- Home life: owns a house in Charleston; had a brief chickens experiment that ended badly (smell, logistics, dogs).
Health, wellness & family plans
- Postpartum weight: Amanda’s intro notes nutritionist guidance—protein + fiber + lower carbs—made a big difference; give yourself grace after pregnancy.
- Sally: froze her eggs; has a strong desire for children and would consider single parenthood if needed.
- Mental health: she recognizes the toll of social media and filming; plans for a no-phone/no-alcohol retreat (Malibu/Arizona-style cleanse) to reset before next season.
Fame, social media & boundaries
- Concern about how fans can affect her off-screen life and workplace (fans contacting workplaces, leaving comments).
- She’s protective of her hospital job and wary of anything that could jeopardize it; stresses the importance of separating public persona from professional identity.
- Admits to heavy phone use and checking social media; wants to reduce pickups and reactions to online comments.
- Uses blocking and direct replies as ways to manage toxicity, but is exploring healthier boundaries.
Sponsors mentioned (brief)
Several sponsor reads were included (ASPCA Pet Insurance, IQ Bar, Wild Grain, Ritual prenatal vitamins, Liquid IV, Little Spoon, Ollie dog food). These are typical mid-episode ad segments; they were read by Amanda and break up the conversation.
Key takeaways for listeners
- Reality TV is often as raw and real as it appears; behind-the-scenes friendships and betrayals are emotionally impactful.
- Balance matters: having a meaningful, stable career (Sally’s robotics job) can ground you amid public scrutiny.
- Postpartum health: focus on protein, fiber, and structure in meals; give yourself grace.
- Boundaries with social media are essential; constant checking fuels anxiety and can affect relationships.
- If you want children, proactive steps (egg freezing, planning) are valid choices — Sally is explicit about this being central to her future plans.
- Being labeled “chaotic” can be embraced as part of one’s persona, but awareness and self-care remain important.
Final note
This episode is a candid mix of Bravo gossip and real-life reflection: Sally Carson comes through as messy, loyal, impulsive, and self-aware. For fans of Southern Charm, it’s a behind-the-scenes look at current conflicts; for general listeners, it’s a frank conversation about how public life, career identity, relationships, and mental health intersect.