Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 71: Put It In A Door

Summary of Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 71: Put It In A Door

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1h 43mNovember 19, 2025

Overview of Rewind with Karen & Georgia — Episode 71: "Put It In A Door"

This Rewind episode (originally My Favorite Murder ep. 71, “Put It In A Door,” released June 1, 2017) has Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark re-listen to and comment on their old show. The episode mixes their usual true‑crime storytelling with pop‑culture asides (YouTube beauty/drama, touring life, therapy), listener tips, and two long-form case tellings: John Crutchley (the so‑called “vampire rapist”) and Janine Jones (an “angel of death” nurse). The hosts also add retrospective context and updates where available.

Main sections covered

  • Intro banter: catching up, YouTube makeup/hair tutorial culture, pets and tour exhaustion.
  • “YouTube Corner” and listener email (NYPD tip on verifying officers at your door).
  • Deep dive 1 — Case of John Crutchley (the “vampire rapist”).
  • Deep dive 2 — Case of Janine (Jean) Jones (pediatric nurse / “angel of death”).
  • Reflections on how cultural/legal context changed since 2017 (policing, statutes, public conversation).
  • Personal updates: touring fatigue, doing therapy together, meet‑and‑greets, and My Favorite Murder’s video channel.

Notable segments & insights

  • YouTube as modern comfort/drama: hosts discuss discovery of YouTube influencer culture (makeup, hair tutorials, kid creators) and the soothing/mediated‑trauma aspect of tutorial videos.
  • Listener tip read (NYPD): a retired cop’s recommendation — if an unexpected officer is at your door, don’t open it; call 911 and confirm identity with dispatch so you can hear verification over the radio.
  • Hosts reflect on how statements they made in 2017 sound different in light of later social/political events and increased awareness of police misconduct — the Rewind format exists to acknowledge and correct earlier naiveté.

Case summaries

John Crutchley — “Vampire Rapist”

  • The attack: On Thanksgiving 1985 (Malabar, Brevard County, Florida), a nearly‑murdered young woman was found naked, handcuffed, and severely blood‑depleted after escaping a house where she says she’d been videotaped, raped repeatedly, and had blood drained while the attacker claimed to be a vampire.
  • Evidence and arrest: Police found video equipment, women’s jewelry and credit cards in Crutchley’s home. FBI profiler Robert Ressler was brought in; his profile suggested an organized serial offender who’d likely killed before.
  • Background: Crutchley moved often, had technical jobs (access to naval sites), and investigators linked him to multiple cold cases and missing women in locations where he’d lived/worked (suspected in many more deaths — estimates vary).
  • Trial/outcome described in-episode: He pled guilty to kidnapping and rape (other counts reduced via plea), sentenced to lengthy term (reported as “25 years to life with 50 years subsequent parole” in the show). He served 11 years, was released in 1996, quickly violated parole (marijuana positive), returned to prison under a three‑strike application, and was found dead in his cell in 2002 of asphyxiation (plastic bag) — unclear whether suicide.
  • Host commentary: Ressler’s role (and legacy as a profiler) is emphasized; Crutchley is described as highly organized and suspected of many more victims, but concrete charges beyond the initial convictions were not secured.

Update/notes: The episode recounts the case and suspects many additional victims; it highlights how profiling and inter‑agency communication (VICAP, Ressler) changed how serial offenders were tracked.

Janine (Jean) Jones — “Angel of Death” (San Antonio)

  • Context: Jones trained as a licensed vocational nurse and worked 3–11 PM shifts in a pediatric ICU in San Antonio in the early 1980s. Colleagues noticed a disproportionate number of medical emergencies and deaths during her shift; nurses called it the “death shift.”
  • Allegations: Across 1981–82 there were dozens of pediatric deaths at the unit; many clustered on Jones’s shift. Reports describe unexplained seizures, uncontrollable bleeding, respiratory failure, and elevated drug levels (e.g., anticonvulsants) in some cases.
  • Specific incidents: Joshua Sawyer (infant, burned out of his home) later had massively elevated Dilantin levels and died after rapid deterioration while Jones was on duty. Other events included injection of potent paralytics / improper medications (transcript uses an unclear drug name; reporting generally describes paralytic agents and overdoses).
  • Institutional response: The hospital allegedly prioritized public relations / reputation — nursing staff who raised concerns were moved or managed rather than the situation being aggressively prosecuted. Jones continued to work in pediatric settings after internal inquiries and later caused further crises at a private practice.
  • Legal outcome and updates: In later years prosecutors revisited the case. The Rewind episode notes investigations and public outrage at the idea that she might have been eligible for early release (given “good‑time” laws), and that prosecutors charged her again in relation to Joshua Sawyer. Subsequent update (mentioned during the rewind): Jones pled guilty (2020) to murdering Joshua Sawyer as part of a plea and received a life sentence with a 20‑year minimum before parole eligibility; official estimates at different times suspected she may have been responsible for many more deaths (varying widely; investigations highlighted institutional failures).
  • Host commentary: The case is presented as especially chilling because it involves children and medical staff abusing trust; hosts condemn institutional cover‑ups and the practice of moving suspected staff around.

Retrospective / cultural reflections

  • Hosts cringe and reframe older remarks in light of later events (policing, public discourse).
  • The Keepers (Netflix documentary) is discussed at length: both hosts found it devastating and influential, praising the documentary’s impact, interviewing style, and exposure of institutional abuse and statute‑of‑limitations problems.
  • Legal & social change note: The hosts call out how statutes of limitations historically prevented prosecution in many abuse cases; they note victims’ later memories (repressed memory arguments) complicate legal action.
  • Personal updates: touring exhaustion, the emotional payoff of live shows and meet‑and‑greets, and the benefit of therapy — they describe attending a joint therapy session and reframing communication as “true for Karen / true for Georgia” rather than right/wrong.

Notable quotes (paraphrased)

  • On institutional response to abuse: “They put their image above human life.”
  • On prosecutorial frustration: “So sick that if you didn’t remember it later the statute of limitations keeps you from going after this person.”
  • Therapy insight (quoted by hosts): “Stop thinking about things as right/wrong and start thinking about ‘true for Georgia’ and ‘true for Karen.’”

Calls to action / recommendations from episode

  • Watch The Keepers (hosts strongly recommend it).
  • For listeners: heed safety tips (verify unexpected officers with 911) and be wary when institutions prioritize reputation over patient or victim safety.
  • The hosts encourage listeners to engage in therapy / preventive relationship work (they describe the benefits).

Practical episode notes

  • This Rewind episode includes lots of original ad reads and sponsor plugs; it is long and mixes levity with very heavy true‑crime material.
  • The format is both recap and candid contemporary commentary — the revisited episode aims to add context, acknowledge earlier blind spots, and provide corrections/updates where possible.

Bottom line / takeaways

  • Two disturbing, well‑told cases: Crutchley (an organized predator profiled by FBI’s Robert Ressler; suspected of multiple killings) and Jones (a nurse accused and later convicted in relation to multiple pediatric deaths) — both raise questions about institutional failures, how predators are enabled, and how the system sometimes prioritizes reputation over victims.
  • The Rewind format adds value: hosts update, contextualize, and critique their past coverage and larger social/legal issues revealed since 2017.
  • Recommended viewing/listening tied to episode: The Keepers; books by Robert Ressler (e.g., Whoever Fights Monsters) for profiling history; My Favorite Murder’s YouTube channel for more visual content referenced by hosts.