Overview of Ep 640 - Metasexuality
This episode is a loose, fast-moving comedy conversation between Matt McCusker, Shane Gillis, and guest Dylan Sullivan, with a stop-and-start structure shaped by ad reads and tangents. The discussion ranges from crude everyday stories and parenting anxieties to sexuality theory, local scene gossip in Austin and Boston, and behind-the-scenes stories about acting, Pauly Shore, and Matthew McConaughey. The episode’s centerpiece is a joking-but-philosophical riff on “metasexuality,” framed as a way to group all non-procreative sex under one umbrella.
Main Topics Discussed
Bathroom horror and “fruity” smells
- The episode opens with a gross-out story about someone stinking up a small office/apartment bathroom.
- The hosts spend a long stretch joking about:
- “fruity” body odor,
- scented/lubed smells,
- Palo Santo and smudging as a way to clear the room.
Strength, age, and male aggression
- Matt riffs on how many women, children, and elderly people he could physically beat in a fight.
- The bit turns into a broader joke about:
- aging into more dangerous, dirtier fighting,
- younger men lacking the same “death awareness,”
- middle-aged rage versus youthful confidence.
Fathers, daughters, and boyfriend intimidation
- A big recurring theme is what dads do when daughters bring boys home.
- The hosts joke about:
- “cooling” the boyfriend down before betraying him,
- fathers using subtle intimidation,
- the awkwardness of finished basements and post-prom hanging out,
- how dads should or shouldn’t enforce boundaries.
The “metasexuality” concept
- One of the episode’s main ideas:
- sex only “counts” as sex when it’s procreative between a biological man and woman.
- Everything else is “meta sex.”
- The hosts use this framework to argue that:
- all non-procreative sexual behavior is essentially the same category of “deviance” from the original act,
- it levels the playing field between straight, gay, and other sexual behaviors,
- it’s a way to remove shame and unify people under one umbrella.
- They treat it as both a serious thought experiment and a joke.
Austin life, queer scenes, and local culture
- Dylan talks about moving to Austin and learning the city through Facebook Marketplace pickups.
- They discuss:
- the gay scene versus the lesbian scene in Austin,
- a lesbian bar in Boston and the economics of keeping niche venues alive,
- the idea that gay men’s scene is stronger while lesbian nightlife can be harder to sustain.
- There’s also a riff on “adult” social scenes in general being unstable or fading over time.
Facebook Marketplace adventures
- The conversation repeatedly circles back to odd and funny transactions from Facebook Marketplace:
- lamps,
- tables,
- cheap appliances,
- unexpected encounters with attractive sellers.
- The hosts joke about being overwhelmed by attractive women during pickup errands and immediately fantasizing like idiots.
Weed, Spanish, and neighborhood identity
- Dylan mentions being around Cuban neighbors and Uber drivers and trying to think in Spanish.
- The jokes include:
- fake Spanish greetings,
- accidental “abuelito” energy,
- trying to sound local without actually speaking the language.
Cereal, childhood, and “trash” food habits
- The hosts compare childhood cereal habits and how permissive parents can shape adult eating.
- Mentioned cereals and food habits include:
- Cinnamon Toast Crunch,
- Honey Bunches of Oats,
- Reese’s Puffs,
- sugary cereal as a childhood vice.
- They connect bad sleep, sugar cravings, and childhood indulgence.
Beds, hygiene, and “wild man” masculinity
- Matt argues that boys should be allowed to keep messy beds and not be raised too neatly.
- He believes:
- over-structured “serious” men are unappealing,
- boys should be a little wild,
- obsession with fitted sheets and perfect beds can kill romantic energy.
Comedic career and acting stories
- Dylan shares how he got into comedy and acting:
- moved to Chicago,
- did occasional open mics,
- later got work as an assistant,
- landed an acting credit as an Uber driver.
- They talk about:
- meeting Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson,
- missing a handshake because he arrived too slowly,
- McConaughey’s very McConaughey-like presence,
- getting a job through Pauly Shore.
Pauly Shore / “the Weez” stories
- Dylan tells stories about working for Pauly Shore:
- being interviewed with surprise tests,
- being given wet carrots to see how he’d react,
- getting a typing test,
- taking the job and learning that Pauly Shore is a sharp, unpredictable boss.
- They also joke about old Pauly films like Bio-Dome and Son in Law.
Porn, magazines, and 90s/early-2000s adolescence
- The hosts reminisce about pre-internet and early internet porn exposure:
- catalogs,
- magazines,
- Victoria’s Secret catalogs,
- mall and department-store “workarounds.”
- They compare generation differences in how people first found sexual content.
Notable Takeaways
- The episode’s core idea is “metasexuality”: the hosts frame nearly all sex outside reproduction as one shared category of non-procreative behavior.
- A lot of the comedy is about identity and social roles:
- dads vs. boyfriends,
- gay vs. lesbian scenes,
- “serious” men vs. wild men,
- boys being allowed to remain messy and unserious.
- Dylan Sullivan comes off as a strong fit for the show, matching the hosts’ pacing and riff-heavy style with personal stories about comedy, acting, Pauly Shore, and moving to Austin.
- The episode is very anecdotal and premise-driven rather than structured, with long tangents that build the chemistry more than any single topic.
Style and Tone
- Crude, conversational, and improvisational
- Heavy on:
- sexual jokes,
- masculine posturing,
- dad humor,
- nostalgia,
- local scene commentary
- The tone stays playful even when touching on religion, sexuality, or family dynamics
Sponsor / Ad Read Notes
The episode includes multiple ad reads woven into the banter, including:
- Mint Mobile
- PrizePicks
- Espolòn Tequila
- AG1
- Rocket Money
- promotional plugs for live shows and social handles
Bottom Line
This is a classic Matt and Shane episode: chaotic, vulgar, and riff-heavy, with the conversation bouncing from gross-out jokes to surprisingly coherent social commentary. The standout bit is the “metasexuality” concept, but the episode is really about the chemistry between the hosts and Dylan Sullivan as they spin mundane life stories into absurd comedy.