Overview of Who’s Lying? Frank Turek, Erika Kirk, Or Elizabeth McCoy? | Candace Ep 316
Host Candace Owens reviews continuing inconsistencies around the September 10 shooting of Charlie Kirk and the timeline of who was where that day. She corrects an earlier timeline mistake after hearing from Nick Shirley, lays out contradictions among Turning Point–adjacent accounts (particularly the “tarmac hug”), evaluates credibility of key players (Frank Turek, Andrew Colvett, Erica Kirk, Elizabeth McCoy), reports a strange noncommittal witness contact at Hopkinson Aircraft, and critiques a conspiracy thread from Kash Patel’s girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins. She asks listeners for tips about several missing/murky people and indicates further episodes will attempt to reconcile these gaps.
Key takeaways
- Candace corrected an earlier error: Charlie Kirk’s show was live before the Y-Refi plane left Santa Barbara; the plane departed ~5 minutes after the shooting. (Thanks to Nick Shirley.)
- Major timeline conflict remains: Frank Turek said Erica arrived at the hospital “around 4 p.m.”, but the plane Erica said Andrew was on didn’t land until ~4:40 p.m., making it implausible for Erica to have been at the hospital that early if both accounts are true.
- Candace believes Frank Turek and Andrew Colvett are truthful; she accepts that the “tarmac hug” between Andrew and Erica occurred and seeks an explanation that reconciles both statements (e.g., Erica arriving on an earlier flight, Andrew on Charlie Kirk’s plane).
- Elizabeth Kravchuk-McCoy (McCoy) provided a different narrative from Turning Point USA: she claims to have been the first called, to have driven to the airport (driven by Lauren Tonkich), to have beaten Erica to the airport and told Erica Charlie was dead there. Candace finds this and other TPUSA accounts inconsistent and suspicious.
- A Hopkinson Aircraft staffer contacted Candace but refused to “confirm or deny” seeing Erica at their facility — an evasive response that raised suspicion.
- Candace dismisses Alexis Wilkins’s (Kash Patel’s girlfriend) extended Twitter thread alleging a Russia/Catholic Church/foreign influence campaign as overreaching and illogical, and she ridicules the method/claims.
Timeline issues & the “tarmac hug”
- Candace’s original confusion: she mixed up which leg of a private plane was in the air when Charlie’s show aired. Nick Shirley corrected her—Charlie’s show aired before the plane left Santa Barbara.
- Discrepancy: Frank Turek’s “about 4 p.m.” estimate for Erica’s arrival at the hospital conflicts with the Y-Refi plane’s ~4:40 p.m. landing time. Candace argues a military man like Frank wouldn’t be off by over an hour.
- Candace’s reconciliation hypothesis: Erica may have flown in on an earlier flight; Andrew may have been on Charlie Kirk’s plane (landing ~3:31 p.m. MT), which would allow time for the tarmac hug and transport to the hospital.
- Candace strongly maintains the tarmac hug happened and that Andrew’s detailed account is credible.
People, alibis, and inconsistencies
- Frank Turek (TPUSA): Viewed as consistent and credible by Candace; his “about 4 p.m.” hospital arrival comment is central to the discrepancy.
- Andrew Colvett: Candace defends his account (emotional detail about hugging Erica). She says he was honest with her about his experience.
- Erica Kirk: Multiple questions about her whereabouts (airport vs. Hopkinson building), inconsistent stories about who called her with the news (doctor vs. Elizabeth telling her at the airport), and lack of public sighting noted by Candace.
- Elizabeth Kravchuk-McCoy: Claims she was first called, drove (or was driven) to handle calls, went to the airport, and later accompanied Erica to see Charlie. Candace finds parts of Elizabeth’s narrative implausible and inconsistent with others’.
- Lauren Tonkich: Named as the person who drove Elizabeth to the airport.
- Stacey Sheridan: Noted as conspicuously absent from the TPUSA office that day despite being close to Erica (lives in same complex). Candace issued an “APB” asking listeners for any sighting info.
- Tyler Boyer: Candace asks listeners if he was at the office on Sept 10; she suspects he likely flew with Erica.
- Mikey McCoy & Catherine LoCastro (assistant): Catherine is described as visibly upset, sent to retrieve something from Charlie’s bloodied car — Candace questions why anyone would send someone into a taped-off vehicle and why contents would matter if Charlie had a plane/bag.
Hopkinson Aircraft contact — odd behavior
- Candace connected with someone at Hopkinson Aircraft who was present when Erica reportedly collapsed there.
- The contact refused to confirm/deny seeing Erica or giving any direct answers about sightings — an evasive stance that Candace flags as strange and potentially meaningful.
Alexis Wilkins, Kash Patel, and the foreign influence thread
- Alexis Wilkins published a 13-part Twitter thread alleging a coordinated foreign influence campaign tying together multiple actors (Russia, Catholic groups, Tucker Carlson, General Flynn, etc.) and arguing she was targeted.
- Candace strongly disputes the logic and interpretation in the thread: she portrays Alexis’s findings as basic Twitter behavior read as conspiratorial, and dismisses the jump to Vladimir Putin/foreign operations.
- Candace also smirks at optics around the Wilkins–Patel relationship and notes the public perception (“honeypot” rumors) stem largely from appearances and the oddity of lawsuits meant to silence critics.
- Candace invites Wilkins to explain her data/models on the show.
Media, politics, and related notes
- Joe Rogan and others have publicly questioned aspects of the shooting (e.g., bullet size, lack of expected exit wound).
- Candace discusses broader political fallout, including resignations (Joe Kent) and public reactions; she connects public interest patterns to normal political alignment rather than an international operation.
- She comments on a perceived cultural/political shift toward Catholicism among some conservatives and media coverage of that trend.
What Candace is asking from listeners / action items
- Any sightings or information about Stacey Sheridan on Sept 10.
- Any confirmation of Tyler Boyer being at the TPUSA office that day (times, texts, photos).
- Any additional eyewitness accounts of Erica or plane movements that could clarify who arrived when.
- Tips can be submitted via CandaceOwens.com (as she noted on the show).
Notable statements and positions
- Candace: “Frank Turek is telling the truth. Andrew Colvett is telling the truth. The tarmac hug happened.”
- She characterizes Turning Point USA’s internal narratives as inconsistent and suggests someone there is lying.
- Skeptical of expansive foreign influence explanations for social-media patterns (as presented by Wilkins).
Sponsors & promos (brief)
The episode included ad reads for: Red Bull (promo for productivity playlist), Preborn (donation appeal), American Financing (mortgage/refinancing), Tax Network USA, Loretto Publications (Catholic books), and Blinds.com.
Bottom line
Candace frames the story as an unresolved timeline puzzle with conflicting accounts coming from people close to Charlie Kirk. She trusts Frank Turek and Andrew Colvett, doubts some of the TPUSA narratives (especially Elizabeth McCoy’s and Erica’s alibis), flags an uncooperative Hopkinson Aircraft witness as suspicious, and dismisses an elaborate foreign-influence theory promoted by Alexis Wilkins as unpersuasive. She asks listeners for corroborating information and promises further follow-up episodes.