Megyn Kelly Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Those Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 263

Summary of Megyn Kelly Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Those Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 263

by Candace Owens

59mNovember 12, 2025

Overview of Candace Ep 263 — "Megyn Kelly Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Those Lying About Charlie Kirk"

Candace Owens uses this episode to push her investigation into the events and aftermath surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death. She highlights newly surfaced audio/video evidence (released by Megyn Kelly) that she says supports Tucker Carlson’s account of Kirk’s state of mind before the Utah event, accuses Turning Point USA (TPUSA) and allied figures of lying and obfuscation, raises security/venue questions about the UVU event, highlights various people she is investigating (staff and pastors tied to TPUSA), attacks public actors who framed her in the controversy (notably Ben Shapiro and Kash Patel’s circle), and solicits tips from listeners. She frames the story as part of a broader problem of institutional corruption involving conservative media, Christian Zionist networks, and powerful donors.

Key takeaways

  • Megyn Kelly released backstage audio/video that appears to capture Charlie Kirk telling Tucker Carlson to “go Max” (i.e., to speak forcefully) right before Tucker’s July speech. Candace says this corroborates Tucker’s earlier claims about Kirk’s mindset and donor pressure.
  • Ben Shapiro publicly claimed Candace accused Erica Kirk of murdering Charlie; Megyn Kelly later confirmed Candace never said that and Candace argues Ben never retracted the claim—calling it a premeditated lie intended to force Megyn Kelly into a public position.
  • Candace lists a series of what she calls “verifiable lies” by TPUSA and allied figures after Kirk’s death (see the section “Claims and alleged lies” below).
  • Candace questions TPUSA’s decision-making: the UVU event request came late (July 18), TPUSA insisted on an outdoor amphitheater location despite UVU warning against it for safety/control reasons, and TPUSA rapidly deployed staff to scout and stage the event within weeks.
  • She highlights medical-record anomalies: Charlie reportedly had a file at Utah Valley Hospital even though his initial care was at Timpanogos; the two hospitals use different, non-interoperable EHR systems (Epic vs. VDI), making the existence of that file unexplained in her view.
  • Candace is investigating several people connected to TPUSA and affiliated ministries—particularly Mikey (Michael?) McCoy and the Erickson brothers—asking listeners for background/tips.
  • She criticizes Kash Patel (and his partner Alexis Wilkins’ $5M lawsuit vs. content creators) as emblematic of a broader decline in seriousness and demands he step down.
  • Candace connects TPUSA/“new-age pastors” and Calvary Chapel networks to a possible pattern of military-to-church influence and Christian Zionist networks that she wants probed further.

Timeline & evidence discussed

  • July 18: UVU Turning Point chapter requested Charlie Kirk to speak (Candace says this is unusually late).
  • Early August (within ~2 weeks): TPUSA reportedly had staff on the ground scouting locations and pressing for the outdoor amphitheater despite UVU safety concerns.
  • July backstage audio/video (released by Megyn Kelly): purported recording of Charlie interrupting and telling Tucker “Go, Max” moments before Tucker’s stage appearance—presented as corroboration of Tucker’s claim that Kirk encouraged him to speak forcefully and was under donor pressure.
  • Post-event: multiple conflicting public narratives from TPUSA leadership and allied media personalities; Candace compiles and challenges many of these.

Claims and alleged lies (as presented by Candace)

Candace lists these as falsehoods spread by TPUSA or allies after Kirk’s death. She frames them as examples of disinformation or misdirection—these are her claims about what others said and why she disputes each:

  • That “Mikey McCoy had blood all over him” (attributed to Pastor Rob McCoy).
  • That Charlie was a committed evangelical who only liked Catholic architecture (Alex Clark, Andrew Klavan/Colvett references).
  • That Charlie’s neck stopped a .30-06 bullet because of “strong bones” (Andrew Colvett).
  • That Charlie never wavered in his support for Israel (Josh Hammer and other Christian Zionist influencers—Candace disputes this).
  • That Mikey McCoy called his dad first (Rob McCoy).
  • That a campus AV worker (“Terrell”) was told by police to remove cameras (Tyler Boyer allegedly said this; Candace disputes).
  • That Terrell removed SD cards because people were stealing hats (Andrew Colvett).
  • That Ben Shapiro and Charlie never had tensions (Alex Clark).
  • Claims about Turning Point’s financial/organizational practices (e.g., claims TPUSA audited “Doge” and other financial assertions).
  • The “Mikey McCoy was a hero” narrative—Candace disputes aspects of it.

(These are allegations Candace challenges publicly; she presents them as part of a cover-up or false narrative pushed to manage public perception.)

People, organizations, and roles mentioned

  • Charlie Kirk — central figure whose death is the subject of the episode.
  • Candace Owens — host; positions herself as an investigator and critic of TPUSA’s postmortem narrative.
  • Megyn Kelly — released backstage audio/video that Candace says corroborates Tucker Carlson.
  • Tucker Carlson — claimed Charlie encouraged him to “go hard”; Candace affirms his account and the tape.
  • Ben Shapiro — alleged to have accused Candace of saying Erica Kirk murdered Charlie; Candace says he lied on Megyn Kelly’s stage and did not retract.
  • Dave Rubin — defended Ben Shapiro’s stage behavior; Candace criticizes Rubin for normalizing it.
  • Turning Point USA (TPUSA) — central organization Candace accuses of misleading the public and mishandling the event.
  • Mikey (Michael) McCoy and Rob McCoy — local pastor/family connections; Candace says something “doesn’t track” about Mikey and wants to investigate his background more.
  • Dylan Erickson and Austin Erickson — TPUSA staff whom Candace calls out as under investigation.
  • Erica Kirk — Charlie’s widow; Candace denies ever accusing Erica of murder, and notes she defended Erica publicly.
  • Jack Hibbs and brother “Butch Hibbs” — Calvary Chapel pastors; Butch reportedly present at the event (Candace highlights the “old man talking to a bush” video identifying him).
  • Kash Patel — criticized for his public behavior; Candace attacks his credibility and calls for him to step down.
  • Alexis Wilkins — Kash Patel’s partner who filed a $5M lawsuit alleging defamation/conspiracy claims; Candace is critical of the lawsuit.
  • Elijah Schaefer — content creator sued by Alexis Wilkins; lawsuit revolves around online claims/jokes.

Security, venue, and procedural questions Candace raises

  • Why did TPUSA insist on an outdoor amphitheater at UVU despite campus warnings that it was unsafe (harder to control access)?
  • Which TPUSA employees scouted and selected the outdoor venue, and why was that decision made so quickly after a late request?
  • Who removed or controlled camera footage/SD cards, and what is the actual sequence of AV/security actions?
  • Why did Charlie allegedly have a medical file at Utah Valley Hospital when initial care was provided at Timpanogos—despite those hospitals using incompatible EHR systems (Epic vs. VDI)?
  • Candace asks listeners for tips on staff backgrounds (Mikey McCoy, Erickson brothers) and other witnesses.

Broader themes Candace emphasizes

  • Institutional corruption: Candace contends Charlie was “treated as a product” by donors and conservative institutions.
  • Christian Zionism and the “new-age pastors”: she suggests an overlap of military backgrounds, Calvary Chapel networks, and Christian Zionist influence that merits further scrutiny.
  • Media/peer pressure: she criticizes conservative elites for using public platforms to shame or coerce other conservatives (her contention toward Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, etc.).
  • Legal and cultural weaponization: she argues lawsuits (e.g., Alexis Wilkins’) are being used to intimidate or silence online critics.

Notable quotes (as aired by Candace)

  • “They tried to bury Charlie in a yarmulke.” — used rhetorically to accuse opponents of manipulating the narrative.
  • “Go Max.” — phrase from the released backstage audio; Candace cites this as important corroboration of Tucker’s account.
  • “I am onto you.” — Candace warning TPUSA staff/associates that she is investigating their actions. (Quotes reflect Candace’s framing and rhetoric.)

Calls to action, open items, and next steps promised on the show

  • Candace solicits tips and eyewitness information (especially anyone who went to school with Mikey McCoy or the Erickson brothers, or who has info on TPUSA staff): email request to moretips@candaceowens.com.
  • She promises follow-up episodes: upcoming topics include the Egyptian planes story and a deep dive into TPUSA’s financials (scheduled for the Friday episode).
  • Encourages listeners to send any documentation about the event, staff, and inconsistencies.

Critiques, tone, and audience framing

  • The episode is investigatory and accusatory in tone: Candace repeatedly frames TPUSA and allied figures as lying, evasive, or complicit.
  • Many statements are presented as allegations and inferences based on selectively cited clips, witness accounts, and leaked material—listeners should note that some claims remain unverified or disputed publicly.
  • Candace mobilizes her audience to participate (tip submissions) and frames the inquiry as part of a broader cultural and political reckoning.

Sponsors and production notes (brief)

  • Episode contains multiple sponsor reads (LifeLock, Riverbend Ranch, Paleo Valley, Pure Talk, American Financing). These are standard ad reads interleaved with the content.

Summary judgment: this episode is less a balanced report and more an advocacy-driven investigation. Candace seeks to discredit TPUSA’s post-death narrative about Charlie Kirk, amplify corroborating material (Megyn Kelly’s release), raise unanswered questions about event security and hospital records, and press for further exposure of people she alleges were involved in deceiving the public. She invites listener assistance and promises additional investigations in subsequent episodes.